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Old 03-01-2013, 06:23 AM
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Glasstone

I know there is a mega thread on these already but I wanted to ask a specific question. There is a lot of talk about the amazing volume put out by the 212 but not as much about tone. I'm considering a 212 or the 21012. I have always preferred 10s. I have had some flings with 12s but always ended up missing the quick response and articulation of 10s.
For those of you with experience with these cabs could you describe the tonal differences between these two cabs.

I may get one of these and for the first time in about 15 years not own any Epifani cabs. How does the upper end compare tonally on the Glasstones to the Epifanis?

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Old 03-01-2013, 06:37 AM
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Nothing about speaker diameter inherently determines the tone. Its a combination of the other speaker design particulars and the box around it.

That said there are a few of these cabs out in the world. I would contact Brad and see what his thoughts are, or if he can direct you to someone closer to you for a demo.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:29 AM
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Seek Brad Johnson and others on the Glasstone thread. No one seems to be disappointed with cabs or customer service. I'm planning on getting Glasstone cabs but in 2x10 configs.
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:35 PM
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I know there is a mega thread on these already but I wanted to ask a specific question. There is a lot of talk about the amazing volume put out by the 212 but not as much about tone. I'm considering a 212 or the 21012. I have always preferred 10s. I have had some flings with 12s but always ended up missing the quick response and articulation of 10s.
For those of you with experience with these cabs could you describe the tonal differences between these two cabs.

I may get one of these and for the first time in about 15 years not own any Epifani cabs. How does the upper end compare tonally on the Glasstones to the Epifanis?

Thanks
The last Epifanis I remember playing were 310UL IIRC and while they were nice they didn't blow me away. Nice, nothing I couldn't gig with but my buttons weren't pushed. At the time I was using either a small Nahas 1-15/1-12 stack, EA VL110 stack or Bag End S15 coax/S10 coax stack. They all have big, even, open response, very important with my sixes. Definitely spoiled me.

The Lil G has very similar sound IMO. Even, not peaky, easy to dial in top end with the tweeter, easy to dial the tweeter back. Lows, lower and upper mids that hit as hard as you played and didn't break up. Sammie Glass, Kevin Brubaker, Preach and I went to the Bass Expo in Reading, PA today and we had five rigs there including the new 2012 (or whatever he's calling it) cab. Two tens front loaded, one twelve firing into the port. Two tweeters. Sounded very similar to the 212 Lil G just bigger at the limited volumes we were playing. It would be interesting to have both and a/b them on the same gig. Both types were as quick as anyone who played them, probably quicker. I'll probably take the 2012 out, if I had room in the truck I would've taken it with me today.

We had my Kustom KXB500, Acoustic Image Clarus 4 Series 2 and Genz Benz Shuttle 9.0, Preach's Walter Woods Ultra and Sammie's Shuttlemax 12.? driving a Lil G 210/15 stack, Lil G 212's and 2012. They all sounded very similar set flat and coloration was easy to dial in at the amp or each bass. One bassist had a Smith six and it sounded exactly like I'd expect a good Smith six to sound like. All of my Brubakers sounded like they do in the studio. The Glasstone basses did the same. So...

we got to throw a lot of things at these cabs today. Even when we got loud the amps were coasting. The basses didn't sound hyped, rather very natural. That's feedback we got all day. Most were amazed that a 1-12 could put out that much sound. Even more amazed when they found out they were 2-12's. Switching from one type cab to the next didn't change the tone.

Big, clean but not dry or sterile sound. I'm a Lil G user and friend of the builder, I'm only biased as an owner. If I didn't like the cab my friend would understand.
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For players with high power micros like the GK MB800, Genz SM9.2 or STM900 considering Glasstone for a 4 ohm single cab solution (rock, blues, funk, gospel) with best overall tone and headroom, which Lil G would get the nod, 212 or the new 2012? Also, for those who like the low end focus (tight, solid, and not boomy) of a sealed cab the Lil G does that pretty well too?

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Old 03-03-2013, 12:03 PM
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Thanks, Brad. That's exactly the kind of info I needed.
Guess I'll have a couple Epifanis for sale soon.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:31 PM
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For players with high power micros like the GK MB800, Genz SM9.2 or STM900 considering Glasstone for a 4 ohm single cab solution (rock, blues, funk, gospel) with best overall tone and headroom, which Lil G would get the nod, 212 or the new 2012? Also, for those who like the low end focus (tight, solid, and not boomy) of a sealed cab the Lil G does that pretty well too?
It's a toss-up... both cabs are tight, solid and not boomy (basic requirements for any I'd use). So far no one who owns a Lil G has complained about coming up short on a gig so you can get a Lil G or spend more and get the taller 2012 for more money. I can't crank a Lil G on any of my gigs... wouldn't be able to crank a 2012 either. Nothing wrong with overkill though.

By "crank" I mean turn up to the levels they're capable of.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:33 PM
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No problem. I really like amplification that lets the sound of my basses come through Done deal.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:43 AM
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Hmmm seems like the 2012 might be the train I was waiting for. Thanks Brad.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:58 AM
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Lets see some pics of the Glasstone crew at the Expo!!!
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Phillybass101, check the Bass Bootcamp facebook page. There may be some there.
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