Glasstone cabs

[diglo]

The rig at church a couple of weeks back. I was trying out the tecamp bonafide.

[Kopfjaeger]

Alright, I got my Glasstone Lil G yesterday via Fed Ex. I had to wait until today before actually getting to play through it.

I intend to use this cab with my Orange TB500, but that has yet to arrive. I plugged in my Orange Ad200b mk3 and took the Lil G through it's paces.

First and most importantly, tone. Killer tone out of this tiny light weight cab! After playing for nearly an hour I had to plug in my OBC410 to compare to tone. I much prefer the tone that came out of the Lil G! Rich and full with ease! I've not yet gotten use to the tweeter attenuator. I started with it on 3, when to 7 then to 1. I really did not notice much of a difference. I don't like booming bass and I tend to set my mids and treble a bit higher than my bass setting. With the head set the same way the tone is so much fuller and punchier than the 410. I was amazed!

I took the Lil G up to about the 1 o'clock volume position, as loud as I was willing to go with my family in the house. No issues whatsoever. The Lil G sounded better with more volume!! Even my wife remarked that the tone was great!!

Happy? Yup, I am. I really want to giver her a go with the TB500. I will do so in a few days after it arrives.

The tilt back is actually a heavy duty flush mount carry handle attached to the bottom of the cab. Initially I was wondering if vibration would cause the handle to close thus losing the tilt feature. That did not happen. It remained tilted back with no issues.

The only issue I did have was the side mounted carry strap, I really hate those things, pulled out when I attempted to pick the cab up with it. The top screw pulled out causing the cab to swing down and smash my foot. I was wearing moccasins at the time so I saw stars. Luckily the cab weighs 35 lbs. A beefier cab would have broken my foot. There is no putting the screw back in that location. the plywood under the carpet is mush there now. I took the damn thing off. I'll be using the bottom tilt mechanism to carry the cab.

Also the carpet at the top rear of the cab was sliced through to the wood. During assembly, someone must have been cutting something against the cab with a razor knife and sliced through the material. The slice is clean, straight, and about 5 inches long. Yea a little nit picky, I know but I had to mention it. I can fix it with some adhesive so it should be an issue.

I'll check back in once I run the TB500 through it. For now it's a great sounding cab but quality control could be a bit tighter.

Sepp

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by Kopfjaeger

Alright, I got my Glasstone Lil G yesterday via Fed Ex. I had to wait until today before actually getting to play through it.

I intend to use this cab with my Orange TB500, but that has yet to arrive. I plugged in my Orange Ad200b mk3 and took the Lil G through it's paces.

First and most importantly, tone. Killer tone out of this tiny light weight cab! After playing for nearly an hour I had to plug in my OBC410 to compare to tone. I much prefer the tone that came out of the Lil G! Rich and full with ease! I've not yet gotten use to the tweeter attenuator. I started with it on 3, when to 7 then to 1. I really did not notice much of a difference. I don't like booming bass and I tend to set my mids and treble a bit higher than my bass setting. With the head set the same way the tone is so much fuller and punchier than the 410. I was amazed!

I took the Lil G up to about the 1 o'clock volume position, as loud as I was willing to go with my family in the house. No issues whatsoever. The Lil G sounded better with more volume!! Even my wife remarked that the tone was great!!

Happy? Yup, I am. I really want to giver her a go with the TB500. I will do so in a few days after it arrives.

The tilt back is actually a heavy duty flush mount carry handle attached to the bottom of the cab. Initially I was wondering if vibration would cause the handle to close thus losing the tilt feature. That did not happen. It remained tilted back with no issues.

The only issue I did have was the side mounted carry strap, I really hate those things, pulled out when I attempted to pick the cab up with it. The top screw pulled out causing the cab to swing down and smash my foot. I was wearing moccasins at the time so I saw stars. Luckily the cab weighs 35 lbs. A beefier cab would have broken my foot. There is no putting the screw back in that location. the plywood under the carpet is mush there now. I took the damn thing off. I'll be using the bottom tilt mechanism to carry the cab.

Also the carpet at the top rear of the cab was sliced through to the wood. During assembly, someone must have been cutting something against the cab with a razor knife and sliced through the material. The slice is clean, straight, and about 5 inches long. Yea a little nit picky, I know but I had to mention it. I can fix it with some adhesive so it should be an issue.

I'll check back in once I run the TB500 through it. For now it's a great sounding cab but quality control could be a bit tighter.

Sepp

Between the handle and the slice in the carpet I would be asking for a new cab.

[Stephent28]

Wow...the cosmetic issues shock me because Sammie is a stickler for details.

Concerning the side handle, maybe a better solution for the future would be to use toggle bolts with an internal washer/nut. No way in the world that could pull free. Might even be a good design change for future units.

[Kopfjaeger]

I do hate those strap type handles. I had no intention of trusting it but I had a cord and tuner in my left hand and I needs to move the cab near the head. Never in my wildest dreams did I expect it to pull out but I should not have trusted it. I knew better. I took the thing off after it happened. The other screw seemed to be secure but were only talking about 1/2 inch plywood here. A void under the top veneer means you don't have the bite you'd expect.

The strap will not be going back on. As far as sending the cab back, not sure if I want to. The slice can be fixed by me and I'm sure it won't be noticed. The handle, I don't like them so not having it is no big deal. On a new cab, I'd take the thing off just out of principle. I doubt the mushy plywood in the that small section has compromised the integrity of the cab.

Sepp

[diglo]

@sepp....make sure you let Sammie know about your issues. He looks for advice from us to help him better the cabs.

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by Kopfjaeger

I do hate those strap type handles. I had no intention of trusting it but I had a cord and tuner in my left hand and I needs to move the cab near the head. Never in my wildest dreams did I expect it to pull out but I should not have trusted it. I knew better. I took the thing off after it happened. The other screw seemed to be secure but were only talking about 1/2 inch plywood here. A void under the top veneer means you don't have the bite you'd expect.

The strap will not be going back on. As far as sending the cab back, not sure if I want to. The slice can be fixed by me and I'm sure it won't be noticed. The handle, I don't like them so not having it is no big deal. On a new cab, I'd take the thing off just out of principle. I doubt the mushy plywood in the that small section has compromised the integrity of the cab.

Sepp

From what I have heard of the builder, I would still tell him and I bet he offers to make it right.

[dukeorock]

Originally Posted by CL400Peavey

From what I have heard of the builder, I would still tell him and I bet he offers to make it right.

Most boutique builders go on a 'labor of love' approach...betting the builder would be pretty bummed if he thought something wasn't just right...I think you'd be doing him a favor by letting him know. Seems like the kind of fella that would want to know

[Kopfjaeger]

I know he is a busy man. I sent him an email before posting here. When he contacts me, we'll talk options. The cab is killer! It's everything I was hoping it would be. The flaws are just cosmetic.

Sepp

[drslglass]

Joe, one disappointed customer is one too many, new cab will ship tomorrow with new handle design, same as tilt. I appreciate all feedback, because I want you to be as happy as the tone is clean. You guys make me better and I hope my cabs do the same for you. Expect tracking info tomorrow.

Rev

[Kopfjaeger]

Rev,

Wow, that is huge! Thank you!

Sepp

[JimmyM]

Applause!

[dukeorock]

Well done, Pastor!

[jnewmark]

Would like to hear some reviews of the GT-15. What Faital is it ?

[drslglass]

Gt-15 has been discontinued, only the Lil'G 15 currently being built, Check David Dyson or Virgil Walker for their review of the Lil'G 15.

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by jnewmark

Would like to hear some reviews of the GT-15. What Faital is it ?

From the specs I saw on his site I would suspect a 15PR400.

Originally Posted by drslglass

Gt-15 has been discontinued, only the Lil'G 15 currently being built, Check David Dyson or Virgil Walker for their review of the Lil'D 15.

Will this cab have the same alignment as the lil'g and will you continue to use the 15PR400?

[drslglass]

Absolutely, I failed to mention that it is the 15PR400.

[phillybass101]

Go head Rev, do your thang!!!

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by drslglass

Absolutely, I failed to mention that it is the 15PR400.

Can you comment on the effect of the perpendicular alignment of the drivers when compared with traditional 11x or 21x driver orientation? Two questions that are partially tied together.

Does the positioning of the second driver impart some sort of band pass filtering? If so what range of frequencies are re-enforced by the second driver?

Generally on TB we talk about the SPL increase that comes from adding drivers. 3db from the additional sensitivity and if you are using a SS amp an additional 3db from the impedance drop. How does the perpendicular/port mounting effect the sensitivity increase of adding a second driver? Understandably the second driver increases the power handling, but with everything from the port being off axis how does the second driver change the frequency response of the front mounted driver?

[Brad Johnson]

I was under the impression that the modeling programs predicted the performance of this cab. That was one of the initial responses I got when I first posted about them.


If I were Sammie I wouldn't explain his process. It's not like he owes it to people to make it public, no offense. That's why I thought requests for me to open my personal cab up and take photos of its internals was kind of ridiculous. To prove I was telling the truth about my experiences. Of course we now have others who've had similar experiences... which I predicted.

Given the general dimensions AND the main drivers involved along with several pics, he can't stop anyone who wants to experiment with this idea like he did to do so AFAIK. Of course you'd obviously be copying his work. I wouldn't expect him to help you figure out how to make your own Lil G or understand what isn't already understood. Why should he? His hard work got him to this point, flying in the face of conventional wisdom. Just my opinion.