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08-31-2010, 02:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SF Bay Area | | | Glockenklang Heart Rock II vs. Heart Rock?
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Howdy. I have an HR and am thinking about an HRII. I was wondering if anybody has ever played through both (or heard from someone who has or any other suggestions) and, if so, how they compare tonally (features, eq points and power are all the same, AFAIK). The Glock site says the HRII is warmer and more dynamic and more musical, but I'm looking for more detail, if possible. If you've only played the HRII, I'd still be interested in hearing your impressions of it. Thanks, DM
Last edited by Dee-man : 08-31-2010 at 05:44 PM.
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08-31-2010, 06:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SF Bay Area | | | Anyone? Any suggestions on where I might find some feedback? Thx, DM |
08-31-2010, 08:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto, ON | | | My guess is the difference has got to be subtle. To my knowledge, the power amp is the same gooey poweramp, so, at most, you are going to see a difference at the gain stage of the unit. Or so I hypothesize. Now anyone who's fiddled with nice preamps know that a Grace sounds totally different from a UA which sounds totally different from a Chandler. So there are differences. But my guess is that given the copy that it sounds 'warmer', it's just going to be that. (I.e., a little closer to a Chandler than a Grace.)
You might see some differences in how it tracks dynamic change, or how the overdrive circuit is structured, too. But that's just conjecture. |
08-31-2010, 08:11 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto, ON | | | Sigh. The Heart-Rock. Such a beautiful amplifier.
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08-31-2010, 11:30 PM
|  | Total Hyper-Elite Member | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | | I can't imagine that an HR II sounds enough better than my HR that I'd have any inclination at all to plunk down another $2K+. I mean, how good is good?
Same goes for the DB751.
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09-01-2010, 10:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SF Bay Area | | | Thx Munji (still love your avatar). I agree. But how about a net $500 difference?
Any HRII owner/users out there? |
09-01-2010, 06:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SF Bay Area | | | Any HRII users out there? Please chime in if there are. |
09-01-2010, 08:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego | | | HRII
Just do it,
you can always flip it if it isn't what you want... (at that price)
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09-02-2010, 12:13 AM
| | Total Hyper-Elite Member | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee-man  Thx Munji (still love your avatar). I agree. But how about a net $500 difference?
Any HRII owner/users out there? | I can't imagine it sounding $500 better ... even $50 better. I wouldn't do it.
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09-02-2010, 08:38 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SF Bay Area | | | Thanks for the thoughts. No HRIIers out there? Perhaps that is telling in and of itself. |
09-02-2010, 12:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kortessem, Belgium | | | I might be soon enough...
Doubting which one of both to buy, but I am yet to meet a shop that has 'm both. Since I use 4 ohm and 8 ohm cabs together, this 2.67 load is a blessing to me. |
09-02-2010, 10:48 PM
| | Total Hyper-Elite Member | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | | Either one will do 2.67 ohms. (not the older HRs, though.)
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09-03-2010, 12:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kortessem, Belgium | | | Yeh, I know...
I just wish I could A/B 'm before deciding. Musicstore (Germany) has m both on short term delivery, but none in stock... |
09-03-2010, 02:02 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: mental institutionzs | | | I've nearly pulled the trigger on the HR II mainly because the HR just is not available anymore. It's hard to tell from reading the specifications just what they both exactly are.
HR updated to handle 2.7 ohms
HR updated with new centre frequency on one of the tone controls
Above 2 mods can be done to older HR's
As for the HR II sounding more dynamic and musical, I've been told that the HR II has been made to sound nearer to the Heart Core. So it sounds like there is more to the HR II than just the centre frequency eq change.If that only applies to the HR II and not the HR then I would be paying extra for the HR II.
Best talk with someone from Glockenklang to find out exactly what is what.
I've been told that the Heart Core would make a Soul II sound coloured by comparison, Wow, I thought the Soul II was known for it's transparency but the Heart Core takes it to a new level, goes deeper and is more tighter and controlled down low. If the HR II does that and not the HR, go for the HR.
That's what I know, I have not played through a HR, HR II or Heart Core. I have a Soul II which I am very impressed with.
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Last edited by mentalpatient : 09-03-2010 at 02:05 AM.
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09-03-2010, 02:16 AM
| | | | I hear that there is an update available for the SOUL.
This makes theSOUL a SOUL II.
Aparently it's about € 100.
Perhaps this kind of thing is available for the HR also.
I'd call Glockenklang and find out.
May save you some money.
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09-03-2010, 08:42 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SF Bay Area | | | Thanks everyone. Still no HRII folks out there yet (only one I know is the TBer selling his at a great price, which is prompting all of this). |
09-06-2010, 10:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kortessem, Belgium | | | Belgian guitar shops in general SUCK!
So, I went to a shop here (no Glockenklang dealers in Belgium) and asked about importing a Glock heart rock I or II...
All the shopkeeper could tell me was that he could import these amps (for prices that are way higher than those in Germany), but that I needed to know that Glockenklangs sound bloody aweful and blatantly hi-fi...
I guess I'm going to plan a day trip to Germany one of these days :')...
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09-06-2010, 04:22 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: mental institutionzs | | | Yeah he sure sounds like a shop keeper ... from the fruit shop.
He needs a visit from Oliver Riedel and Till Lindermann so they can sort him out with their flame throwers. |
09-07-2010, 11:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kortessem, Belgium | | He seemed a little bit biased towards the non-hi-fi amps  ... |
09-08-2010, 03:01 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: La Mesa (San Diego area), Cali | | Quote:
Originally Posted by mentalpatient I've been told that the Heart Core would make a Soul II sound coloured by comparison, | I would certainly agree with that statement - I have an older HeartCore and A/B'd it with a Soul several times.
Dan K.
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