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04-13-2011, 08:53 AM
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So, I'm in the market for a half-decent amp to play small gigs with. Nothing really loud, just contra-dance type settings with mostly acoustic instruments, but it'd be nice to find something with a really nice "bass" sound. All I have at present is the amp which came with my fretless, and that's a Fender Bullet 150. Not bad for practising in my living room, but it's a guitar amp and really sounds it.
Sorry to be asking what must be the ten thousandth stupid "what amp should I get" question, but I'm a bit new at this and could use the advice. How many watts? Good size for cabinets? Budget will probably be a few hundred; what will give me the most bass for my buck? | 
04-13-2011, 09:01 AM
|  | Yeah, I've got the moves like Jagger. | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: G.R. MI | | | I have recently converted to a combo amp. If you go combo get something with a decent amount of power. (400W or so) If you're going Cab/Head, you don't need more than 200W or so with the right cab. (I'd go with a 4x10) I've gigged with a 130W head and a 410, and it works just fine. I think a tad more headroom would be nice though.
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04-13-2011, 09:09 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Zealand | | | What's contra dance? Acoustic instruments as in unamplified? How many? You don't need half of bugger all wattage to keep up with a couple of guitars, a violin and a djembe. A 15W practice amp may do the trick.
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04-13-2011, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Downunderwonder What's contra dance? Acoustic instruments as in unamplified? How many? You don't need half of bugger all wattage to keep up with a couple of guitars, a violin and a djembe. A 15W practice amp may do the trick. | Contra dancing is a sort of folk dancing people do in the northeastern US - kind of based on English country dancing, I think. Lots of old fiddle tunes, a little bluegrass. Around here the band usually ends up being an ungodly mix of instruments - accordion, a couple of electric guitars, a handful of fiddlers, a boogie-woogie type pianist or so, mandolin - most of them amplified so as to be heard over the people dancing and whooping it up.
I don't need a huge amount of wattage, but the thing about my 15-watt amp is that I can't turn the volume up past about 4 or it starts reminding me that it's a guitar amp and hates low frequencies... And while I'm getting an amp, I want something I can do small rock gigs with as well as the dances, so I assumed that around 150-200 watts would make a lot of sense to start with. Is that a faulty assumption - and is there a better way to be thinking about this?
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04-13-2011, 02:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Zaragoza, Spain | | | Check out the amp FAQ at the top of the amp forum. Basically, it seems you need 300W into a 4x10 for a rig that will last you.
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04-13-2011, 03:56 PM
|  | Yeah, I've got the moves like Jagger. | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: G.R. MI | | | Drummers are your friend, but with an underpowered amp, drums are your enemy.
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04-13-2011, 04:08 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: KY USA | | | Gallien Krueger MB200 micro bass amp
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Avatar TB153 cab (4Ω version) with 15" woofer + 6.5" mid + tweeter | 
04-13-2011, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AwkwardLoudness Gallien Krueger MB200 micro bass amp
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Avatar TB153 cab (4Ω version) with 15" woofer + 6.5" mid + tweeter | Oh, yeah - I've been looking at those little GK heads and admiring the portability - so they sound good, then? | 
04-13-2011, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Phalex Drummers are your friend, but with an underpowered amp, drums are your enemy. | Oh! Yeah - I probably ought to have mentioned that I'll be playing with a drummer sometimes (one who is very young and enthusiastically loud). So I'll need enough power to show up well next to that. | 
04-13-2011, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaleidescapist Oh, yeah - I've been looking at those little GK heads and admiring the portability - so they sound good, then? | I personally prefer a roaring loud heavy iron vacuum tube amp, but that rig should certainly suffice for an acoustic Contra dance gig. Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaleidescapist Oh! Yeah - I probably ought to have mentioned that I'll be playing with a drummer sometimes (one who is very young and enthusiastically loud). So I'll need enough power to show up well next to that. | Oh. Well, in that case, I suggest something like this: Ampeg SVT-VR through Ampeg 810E.
It depends on what you meant by "enthusiastically loud", however. | 
04-13-2011, 10:12 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Zealand | | | So really the question is the same question but with a cute preamble.
300W amp, two 8 ohm cabs if you're a loud rock band with no bass in the PA.
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04-13-2011, 10:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Zealand | | | Most bass for buck is an old Peavy combo amp. Heavy as a dead cow. Strangely you don't hear about extension cabs with them but they are supposed to do 2 ohms with another 4 ohm cab.
Cheapo rig, sansamp (used) into old power amp into used speakers.
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04-13-2011, 10:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Pekin, Il | | | You can get the old Peavey combo's cheap too, still have mine and still use it when I don't need to haul "The BEast" | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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