"Green" or "electric" amps....anyone have experience?

ledyard · #1 08-12-2011, 09:36 AM

Anyone have experince with these? The web site is pretty vague.

I keep seeing "GREEN" BLACK, ELECTRIC< ect...i assume they are all the same no?

billfitzmaurice · #2 08-12-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ledyard

Anyone have experince with these? The web site is pretty vague.

So vague it has no address?

KramerBassFan · #3 08-12-2011, 09:55 AM

ELECTRICAMP - ELECTRIC AMP - ELECTRICAMPS : ELECTRIC AMP , USA - Hand Made Custom Tube Amps and Speaker Cabinets

Only one of the most generic amp names on the face of the earth.

Flabass · #4 08-12-2011, 09:57 AM

Pretty expensive.

JoeVictim · #5 08-12-2011, 10:06 AM

Ampeg killer. These are comparable to Orange Amps. If you do a little research, you'll see how they are connected. It's a pretty interesting history actually. Green Amps have a cult following in the Doom/Stoner Metal scene. Also check out Verellen Amps' Meatsmoke amp, Emperor cabs, and Monolith cabs. The whole idea is to achieve that sweet 70's rock tone but at insane volume levels.

mofeezy · #6 08-12-2011, 10:09 AM

They sound really good. I have a friend who has one of their "White" amps. Very similar to matamp and old orange heads.

ledyard · #7 08-12-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeVictim

Ampeg killer. These are comparable to Orange Amps. If you do a little research, you'll see how they are connected. It's a pretty interesting history actually. Green Amps have a cult following in the Doom/Stoner Metal scene. Also check out Verellen Amps' Meatsmoke amp, Emperor cabs, and Monolith cabs. The whole idea is to achieve that sweet 70's rock tone but at insane volume levels.

Im familiar with Emperor cabs and as far as Orange all I know is that when Orange and Matamp split that Matamp continued hand wired amps.

I really want an Orange AD200B But I would like it hand wired. So people were telling me to check into Green, Matamp, Black, Electric, ect...

JoeVictim · #8 08-12-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ledyard

Im familiar with Emperor cabs and as far as Orange all I know is that when Orange and Matamp split that Matamp continued hand wired amps.

I really want an Orange AD200B But I would like it hand wired. So people were telling me to check into Green, Matamp, Black, Electric, ect...

you would be happy. I think Verellen also hardwires, but I am not 100% on that.

Eletric Amps is the USA's answer to Orange/Matamp.

Mr. Foxen · #9 08-12-2011, 11:31 AM

There is another thread. Electric amps is a brand that sells amps made by Class A Electronics. I think a dude from Class A, John Mcneece has gone solo, making his own stuff, but isn't very net savvy, but if you are interested, PM an I'll send you his email address. Electric started off importing Matamp amps from the UK, but they never made bass amps during this period.

Orange was a brand that commissioned Matamp to make amps for them, then they continued making their own amps, without association with Matamp. The current Orange isn't related to Matamp at all, and most stuff is made in China, sometimes 'assembled' in the UK, rather than boutique handwired stuff.

Green amps (capital G) were made by Matamp whilst the had Dave Green as their chief engineer (he now works for Ashdown/Hayden), which coincided with what became Electric amps importing Matamps. The had a bunch of Green vinyl at the time, but there are Green amps in other colours, because it is just a name, and you could get green coloured Matamps to order in the 70s. Electric make amp sleeves in green, with green on the faceplate.

White were another company that commission Matamp to make a line of amps.

In practice, true Matamps are build to be clean machines, the main man Matt Matthias hated distortion so much he quit making amps for instruments and switched to PA. Dave Green era (after Matt died, and one of the employees took over, who didn't have the electronics knowledge) ones were guitar amps, and they tended to be dirtier for the American market, with drive channels and such. Electric amps are big dirty filth monsters, not just preamp gain, but across the board growly harmonic distortion. They are stylish, but you can get the same without the styling from elsewhere. Current Matamps are superbly built handwired amps, that go across the history of Matamp, so you can have super clean, or drivey if you want, everything is built to order. The US distro is Midwest Matamp and Zach is a totally good dude to deal with.

N.F.A. · #10 08-12-2011, 11:35 AM

+1 to Matamp. I have owned a old GTO, Little Rock and Minimat. All superb amps. The GTO was a beast.

Mr. Foxen · #11 08-12-2011, 11:47 AM

Oh yeah, should show this, custom/prototype Matamp 400w, those are 6550/Kt88s, not EL34:

An here is how handwiring should look if it is done right:

Owner of that posts here, and will be along shortly I'd guess.

cheezus · #12 10-07-2011, 08:18 AM

Is there any bass players in here who have ordered Electric/Green amps to Europe? I think that I cannot live much longer without owning a 180W Power Unit but I'm little concerned about the taxes. I have couple of pedals ordered from US in the past and one of them got stuck in the customs of Finland. I had to pay 23% extra for the pedal which wasn't that bad because the pedal was only worth $200. But if the Green amp costs $2999 and that would be quite a lot of extra money (about $700).

Nightlyraider · #13 10-07-2011, 08:44 AM

For that kind of money you could probably get a custom made european build, entirely to your specifications.

There may be some sort of name-brand attachment, but I sure couldn't consider $3700 in a single amp.

hennessybass · #14 10-07-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KramerBassFan

Only one of the most generic amp names on the face of the earth.

I vote AMP for that... Amplified Music Products or AMP - awesome amps, BTW.

Electric Amps USA are hand-built when you order them tube amps. Along the lines of orange / matamp / etc...The colors, like Green, seem to be a play off the Orange thing. You can order them in a bunch of colors. You can also get custom name plates on them. There is a TBer on here who has one with his band name on the name plate... Monoborw, maybe?

There was a dude selling an Orange AD200 on TB classifieds that was rebuilt inside by the guys at Electric Amps USA... I think.

They are super pricy - which is expected for a quality hand built tube amp. I was really close to buying one of the Green power units, and actually found one on ebay. A guy who had two of them was selling one. I ended up getting a Hiwatt DR200 locally instead.

I'll see if I can dig up that ebay sale.

hennessybass · #15 10-07-2011, 09:22 AM

Here is the info from that ebay sale. The guy was asking $2500 for the amp.
The guy has or had 2 of these, and toured with them, so I think this is pretty good info from an actual user.

"Commissioned in 2008 and delivered in 2010" -- takes a patient man.
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Up for sale is one of my two EA Power Units commissioned in 2008 and delivered in the spring of 2010. This is not just a power amp: 3x12AX7/4xKT-88 head puts out over 200W of the purest point-to-point hand-wired all-tube tone for instrument or slave amplification.
The Knobs:

~ 2 separate inputs: HIGH for instrument-level, LOW for Line-level signals.
~Bass is a 4-stage selector high-pass filter that goes from tinny old-time radio to a massive wall of bass.
~Boost adds brightness and presence.
~Volume goes from Loud to Really Loud to Really Really Loud with sweet tube overdrive. No Master Volume - You love it!

Rear Panel:
~AC Jack
~Main Fuse
~Line-level slave output jack with gain adjustment knob
~3 dedicated output jacks to drive either a 4, 8, or 16 ohm load.

Powered by a Mercury Magnetics transformer and a brand new set of JJs that have 0 hours of playing time on 'em! This is the amp used by Ufomammut, Bongzilla, Om, High On Fire, and the successor to the Matamps used on the mighty SLEEP records! This amp has a custom faceplate, designed in the tradition of the Green Matamp Units; other than my second head, there's none other like it.

BassmanPaul · #16 10-07-2011, 01:58 PM

Strange! All my amps are electric!

**bassman314** · #17 10-07-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BassmanPaul

Strange! All my amps are electric!

I converted mine to Nuclear.

My amp glows!

MAMMOTHvolume · #18 10-07-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bongomania

The Matamp history page says the "Green" was because of an endorsing artist also named Green. Dave Green came along several years later.

White is not another brand, it is just another in the line of "color" names that Electric started using after their split with Matamp, to compete with Orange.

The chap they made them for was called peter green also, of fleetwood mac fame.

White is another brand of matamp outsourced to another company near me

Electric amps have nothing to do with orange amps. I've never been impressed with their attention to detail either, they make good rats nests

bongomania · #19 10-07-2011, 03:26 PM

FTR, I deleted my post (while you were typing yours) because I realized I was just repeating what I had read, not providing anything I know personally to be true.

Mr. Foxen · #20 10-07-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bongomania

FTR, I deleted my post (while you were typing yours) because I realized I was just repeating what I had read, not providing anything I know personally to be true.

Thing to bear in mind is matamp.com is not the Matamp site, it has no affiliation with Matamp, its the site of a former distributor of Matamp who lost the contract. Think he was basically more web savvy than the Matamp of the time.