guaging interest: Sunn 200S 2x15 reproduction cab

[hachi kid]

hey guys. I'm currently building a replica of the old Sunn 200S 2x15 folded horn cab like what John Entwistle used to use. I'm going to be personally using this cab as well as a replica of the offset Sunn 4x12 cab for gigging. a few people I've told have expressed interest in buying one, and I've been thinking about making them in small numbers. I'm just curious if there is a market for it, and if people will be interested.

if people are interested, and I do start selling them, I will buy a vendors account for TB.

I probably wouldn't sell it for much over cost, though. just wanting to get more experience and get the cabs out there.

[gbarchus]

I'm interested.

Gale

[lowphatbass]

Would you be selling these loaded with drivers? If so what drivers would you use?

[hachi kid]

cool. I'll keep you updated, gbarchus, when I'm done building this cab, and I'll let you know how it turns out.

I could sell it as either. it'd be up to the buyer. it'd sort of be custom, really. there's going to be a design, but I would leave the speakers and the look of the cab up to the buyer. the speakers that's going in mine will be Eminence Legend CB15's. I've heard they're good replacement speakers for this cab.

[bishopbass]

I use to make sunn 200s speaker cabinet copies for Gus Zoppi Music in Warren, MI. Way back when. If you want I can get you the internal measurements of the cabinet and the angle of the 1/2" folded horn shelf. I used those cabinets for many years. Best sounding full bass sound on the market. I know people are always looking for them.
Hugh

[TravTrav]

I'm interested, but I'll probably never have money.

I always thought that would be fun, though. Just building amps/cabs for fun, and building something awesome for people to enjoy.

[hachi kid]

bishopbass, I have plans, but I will PM you after I can clear space out of my PM box to chat with you.

TravTrav, I'll see what prices will be, but I'm looking at making them affordable.

[hachi kid]

update: I've found Weber makes some speakers to replicate the sound of the JBL D140F that the Sunn 200S originally came with. they're called the Weber NeoMag 15 with the cloth surround, ribbed speaker, and the aluminum cone. they're currently out of stock, but I would be able to check into seeing if they would be able to make anymore.

[garmenteros]

Count me interested... PM with pricing info if this ever gets off the ground... I like 2 15s. I'd like to pair a cab like this down the line with my acoustic 370...

[hachi kid]

awesome. when I finish the cab, I will have prices a lot more solid. I'm going to be using Eminence Legend CB15 for my personal cab, but I'm also curious about these Weber NeoMag 15's.

I'm also going to check with Scumback to see if they make/can make a speaker close to the JBL D140F, but with higher power ratings since the Weber speakers are rated at 75 watts. after some reading, I'm understanding the JBL's were good for 150 watts each. so, there will be a few different options as far as speakers go.

[soundmasterg]

Originally Posted by hachi kid

awesome. when I finish the cab, I will have prices a lot more solid. but for an early estimation, it looks like I'll be selling the cab unloaded for around $350. this price is not final at all, just an estimation. depending on speakers chosen, it will depend on the final price of the cab. I'm going to be using Eminence Legend CB15 for my personal cab, but I'm also curious about these Weber NeoMag 15's.

I'm also going to check with Scumback to see if they make/can make a speaker close to the JBL D140F, but with higher power ratings since the Weber speakers are rated at 75 watts. after some reading, I'm understanding the JBL's were good for 150 watts each. so, there will be a few different options as far as speakers go.

Weber rates their speakers conservatively. Ted Weber's favorite speakers were JBL's and he spent a lot of time and effort to duplicate the sound of them, but instead of alnico, he used the Neo magnets. I am sure that his speakers would take the same amount of power as the old JBL D140F's and K140F's.

Also, Scumback had their speakers designed and made by Weber, until the Scumback guy tried to threaten the Weber guys, and Weber stopped building them for him and offered them for sale himself. You can read about it at the Weberbbs.

And lastly, if anyone wanted a Sunn cabinet, they could get one direct from the guy who originally made them, Conrad Sundholm. He builds them on a custom order basis and can build it how you like. Front mounting is actually a lot better and sounds the same, and I believe that is how he does them now unless someone REALLY wants the original back-loaded style. If anyone was interested, they could check Conrad's site out and email him. His site is below, click on the "Welcome" link.

Greg

Welcome

[hachi kid]

wow. so, thanks for spamming my thread? I'm trying to start a cab business...

[B-string]

Originally Posted by hachi kid

wow. so, thanks for spamming my thread? I'm trying to start a cab business...

Use the red Triangle on the top right of the post to flag a Mod for review?

[soundmasterg]

Originally Posted by hachi kid

wow. so, thanks for spamming my thread? I'm trying to start a cab business...

Hey look,

If people are thinking about buying a cabinet of this type, they should know their options. Its up to them if they want to buy from you or someone else, don't you think?

You shouldn't be allowed to shill for business on a public site and shut everyone else out of the thread just because they say something you don't like. It would be different if you were contributing to the site as any other manufacturer would have to do.

I think its pretty fair myself to point out other options to people. Its cool that you are trying to start a business, and I wish you good luck. It kind of sux though that you are starting your business by building something that someone else already did 40 years ago.

Why not build your own product or your own design? Don't you think that you are spamming the board by even starting the thread in the first place?

I also helped you along by giving you some info about the Weber and Scumback speakers that you might not have had otherwise.

Greg

[NKUSigEp]

Given that funds were available, I'd buy one.

[Chef]

Mod Insert:

Yessir, this has been reported several times now.

Hachi, TB isn't your personal business incubator; be prepared for others to express their opinions.

[hachi kid]

understood Chef. sorry for the trouble.

[Chef]

No trouble

[hachi kid]

update photo:

[hachi kid]

update:





just need the hardware, now. also, I'm going to be using DuraTex to put on the outside of it.