Guitar through a bass rig! No, I'm not kidding - Page 3

**Stumbo** · #41 01-06-2013, 02:23 PM

DREP

If your custom built 4x15 is not designed properly, IME, it won't matter much which amp you choose.

ric4682 · #42 01-06-2013, 02:31 PM

I recommend checking out the Carvin B2000. I have an Ampeg bass head as well and I love the tone of the Carvin. Plus you'll likely never run out of power. I've ran guitar through it with great success!

rpsands · #43 01-06-2013, 03:10 PM

Wasting your time, money and energy on a tube bass amp when your tone is coming from a guitar amp is silly.

In order to KISS, I'd recommend just grabbing a cheap but reliable little micro amp, like a Genz 9.0 or something.

If it were me doing it, I'd use a Line6 Pod Live (or a Boss Gt-10) and the built in crossover and a power amp for bass and a power amp for guitar (say a Carvin 100w tube power amp and a DCM1540-L).

bradjonesbass · #44 01-06-2013, 07:01 PM

The answer to your question is a few posts back - bridge your current amp and see what that sounds like before you start looking at other amps.

sammyfallen · #45 01-06-2013, 08:13 PM

I play in a hardcore band similar to tragedy, from ashes rise, converge, trap them, etc... and have had to pull double duty more than once. I have used both a telecaster and a les paul into my fender 300 pro and ampeg 810, along with a super bass and 2 x ampeg v4 cabs. I used a simple boss bass od / distortion with the treble at zero, bass maxed, blend maxed, and gain maxed to eq the low side of the rig. I also eq'd the 300pro in a frown whilst boosting lows. I left my guitar rig as usual and IMO it sounded fantastic. I will say, I switched out my bassman for a GK 1001 and have never been happier. IMO GK is all about what cabs you use and they dirty up real nice with a big sealed monster.

JGR · #46 01-06-2013, 09:31 PM

I would go with a Fractal Audio Axe FXII, Berg NV412, and good power amp. I've run this setup and it will crush just about anything in it's path, both tonally and in sheer output.

Moloch666 · #47 01-07-2013, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mc_muench

Dude come on over to the Stoner/DOOM thread...be with your kin

Sterner/DERM Bassits Pert 41: Merxing sperkers iz gerd

But really those Mosfet SS Ampegs like B2R, B4R, B5R can clip all day, the clip light really means nothing. If you like the tone and it gets the volume you seek but a light is blinking and you are worried, dont be.

DOOM OUT!

Come to this thread. We understand you.

I'm the sort of guy who likes guitars through bass amps and basses through guitar amps. I'm not familiar with many amps, but if I were to have my pick of what you'd suggested I'd go for the Bassman.

Ron Now · #48 01-07-2013, 07:37 AM

Hey man, I've played and owned all the heads you've had listed there. I also get what you're trying to achieve with the bass/guitar rig.

SVT-3pro - underwhelming, but still solid, it works, it does what it does but I wouldn't go out of my way to own one.

SVT-4pro - Versitle and loud. Great for a lot of applications, my favorite of the bunch.

Mesa 400/+ Not really a volume difference between the two, personally like the 400 better since it uses 6550's over the 6l6's but that's just a matter of opinion.

Ampeg SVT 2 nonpro - don't bother with the pro it's not the same amp at all. The non-pro is the closest to a 70's blueline you can get with less hassle

Sunn/Fender 300t - Bassiest of the bunch, also hardest to dial in perfectly since it has so many features. That being said my favorite amp of all time is the sunn 1200s which is the same preamp from these amps with a 1200 watt solid state power amp.

I get what you're saying with tube amps getting farty or mushy in the low end. I always find that they don't have the clarity and headroom that I want at the volumes I play (which is why I vote for the 4pro). I actually want to do something like you're doing with a SS amp runnning the lows and a tube amp for the mids and highs.

fender099 · #49 01-07-2013, 07:43 AM

I'm telling you, bass through a guitar rig does not work. If the amp is not powerful enough it will instantly break.

sbassface · #50 01-07-2013, 07:46 AM

altamont · #51 01-07-2013, 07:48 AM

There's a duo here in Montreal called Solids (https://www.facebook.com/pages/solid...468473?fref=ts)
The guitarist is doing exactly what you're looking to do.
He's using 2 seperate rigs with an A/B switch. He has an old V4B hooked to a 810EN and an old tube Traynor head (not sure which model) hooked to an Orange 410. Sounds incredible, even with the heavy hitting drummer.

Moloch666 · #52 01-07-2013, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fender099

I'm telling you, bass through a guitar rig does not work. If the amp is not powerful enough it will instantly break.

Are you sure? Because when I ran my bass through all the different guitar rigs my friends have, not a single one has broken. Varying from dodgy 25W solid state combos and 50 or 100W solid/valve/hybrid heads usually with a 4x12 under it.

...and none of them have broken since.

**CL400Peavey** · #53 01-07-2013, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moloch666

Are you sure? Because when I ran my bass through all the different guitar rigs my friends have, not a single one has broken. Varying from dodgy 25W solid state combos and 50 or 100W solid/valve/hybrid heads usually with a 4x12 under it.

...and none of them have broken since.

It really depends on how powerful your amp is, how you have it EQed and what you want tonally, and how loud you want to be. I doubt there are any single unit guitar cabs that could take the beating my bass cab does. Thats not to say they couldnt work for someone else's needs, but that it wouldnt work for me.

**DethByDoom** · #54 01-07-2013, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mc_muench

Dude come on over to the Stoner/DOOM thread...be with your kin

Sterner/DERM Bassits Pert 41: Merxing sperkers iz gerd

But really those Mosfet SS Ampegs like B2R, B4R, B5R can clip all day, the clip light really means nothing. If you like the tone and it gets the volume you seek but a light is blinking and you are worried, dont be.

DOOM OUT!

Yeah, you're asking the wrong people.

The clipping light is really just a free light show that came with your amp.

Buy a cheap power amp on craigslist and slave it. Owners manual available online tells you how to.

DiabolusInMusic · #55 01-07-2013, 10:22 AM

I have no advice to offer you, but I have to know, what are the measurements and weight of your 4x15 cabinet... that thing must be a total pain to cart to gigs, I imagine it would also need to be moved by a half ton or a cargo van.

Sartori · #56 01-07-2013, 06:37 PM

Some people don't really care about weight.

Sartori · #57 01-07-2013, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moloch666

Are you sure? Because when I ran my bass through all the different guitar rigs my friends have, not a single one has broken. Varying from dodgy 25W solid state combos and 50 or 100W solid/valve/hybrid heads usually with a 4x12 under it.

...and none of them have broken since.

I think it kinda depends on the bass sound one's going for, and the specific speakers/cab involved.