Guitarist doesn't know how to dial his volume knob back

[millsbass5]

Guitarist needs his volume knob Super Glued on about "7".

[goran]

This is an interesting read from guitard's perspective:
http://www.myrareguitars.com/i-play-too-loud-thank-you

The part where he says that 50W (30, or 40) can be used in lower level applications particularly stroked me.

And the part where bass is for rounding sound with the ultra lows?!?! Is this the type of guitarist that everyone is afraid of?

[Downunderwonder]

He's the kind that needs to feel how round the pointy end of a bass is when inserted.

50W tube Marshall into 4x12 is far too loud for a small club stage unless not dealing with a guitard.

[AuntieBeeb]

Originally Posted by Gubna

Volume knob?

My guitar player has three tuners and I have to ask him to tune.

Three? Does he tune through all three and work out the average pitch or something?

[AuntieBeeb]

Another vote here for pointing the guitarist's speakers at himself. Another problem, mind, is that some guitarists genuinely don't realise how dominating their tone is - far too many of them have spent years practicing on their own and don't know how to set their amp in a group setting.

I've recently resigned from a band which had two guitarists playing so loudly I may as well have not been there. Fortunately they were open to my suggestions on sound setup, so I took a look at the louder guitarist's amp and realised he had the bass almost maxed out. Little wonder we couldn't hear anything else in the room - I turned it down and there seemed to be a genuine look of surprise on his face when he realised he could hear not only himself but also the rest of the band...

[mr.mow]

I play in a 3pc where the guitarist has a solid state fender 160w into 212 amp (you have any idea how loud that is?!) he also runs one if those boss digital floor things into it..

It got to the point where I had an SVT into a markbass 410 and couldn't hear myself.. At rehearsals..

Complaints about volume are met with rolling eyes and 'its not rock n roll' and 'its only on one!'..

But when I'm running an SVT FLAT OUT, Dimed.. On 10 and can't hear myself?!

I now have an issue live where the stage volume is getting so high the sound guys are sucking the bass out of my set up.

Sound check at rehearsals goes like this, guitard plays, everyone try to match his volume..

[PlungerModerno]

Originally Posted by mr.mow

I play in a 3pc where the guitarist has a solid state fender 160w into 212 amp (you have any idea how loud that is?!) he also runs one if those boss digital floor things into it..

It got to the point where I had an SVT into a markbass 410 and couldn't hear myself.. At rehearsals..

Complaints about volume are met with rolling eyes and 'its not rock n roll' and 'its only on one!'..

But when I'm running an SVT FLAT OUT, Dimed.. On 10 and can't hear myself?!

I now have an issue live where the stage volume is getting so high the sound guys are sucking the bass out of my set up.

Sound check at rehearsals goes like this, guitard plays, everyone try to match his volume..

Not a good way to get repeat shows. All of the best working bands in my area that I've seen (covers, originals, and mixed) have one thing in common: Controlled volume - with good balance. Some have keys, some have 2 guitars - but the balance is absolutely vital to getting the best out of the venue and the band. IMO of course.

[Downunderwonder]

I play with a real player who uses a tiny terror 15w tube amp into a 4x10. I can assure you it is very rock'n'roll.

[will33]

Originally Posted by goran

This is an interesting read from guitard's perspective:
http://www.myrareguitars.com/i-play-too-loud-thank-you

The part where he says that 50W (30, or 40) can be used in lower level applications particularly stroked me.

And the part where bass is for rounding sound with the ultra lows?!?! Is this the type of guitarist that everyone is afraid of?

The guy in that link is a bit of a Jeckyl & Hyde. There is some very good advice in there......sort of sprinkled in amongst some really ignorant, egotistical, misinformed or just plain stupid stuff. I'd call that guy about 35% musician, 65% guitard. Not enough leaning the right way there for me to put up with.

[ma4rk]

Originally Posted by will33

The guy in that link is a bit of a Jeckyl & Hyde. There is some very good advice in there......sort of sprinkled in amongst some really ignorant, egotistical, misinformed or just plain stupid stuff. I'd call that guy about 35% musician, 65% guitard. Not enough leaning the right way there for me to put up with.

Totally agree... sounds like he's a bit of inconsiderate d!ck by smiling & saying thank you if the sound guy says he's too loud. Like c'mon man, play fair! Too bad he's stuck in his ways.

If he bothered to turn his amp down & put his ear up to where the speaker would be miked - he'd find that the sound is not 'thin' & if he asked some guitar players from other bands that have a good PA mix he'd probably find they're not very loud on stage.

[bumperbass]

Originally Posted by snowtraveler65

Are you guys playing Wembley Stadium? There is absolutely no need for the guitarist to have an amp/cab of that size unless you're playing some pretty large venues. A Vox AC30 (30 Watts) is plenty big enough for most theatres. If you're only playing clubs, nothing over 20 watts is necessary for the guitarist. Tell him to sell the Line 6 and the 4x10 and buy a Fender Deluxe Reverb and put it on a tilt-back stand as Mr. Baer suggested. Keep your Carlsbro.

^^^^^This guy thinks like I do! Best advice ever. More guitar players need to be abandoning the '100 watt stack' model. That's so 70's.