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08-20-2011, 08:36 AM
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Hey guys been looking to upgrade my rig. i am looking at getting the hartke hydrive 410 but not sure what head to get, an experienced gigger told me the lh500 would be more than enough but then i don't want to feel limited by power or to just one cab so was going to go all out getting the lh1000 but then don't want to pay that much more. was hoping to get some insight or pros and cons of my situation?
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08-20-2011, 09:24 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New-Brunswick, Canada | | | Try to find a used LH1000. You will pay way less and you'll have enough power for any gig. |
08-23-2011, 11:55 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada | | | I use an LH500 that I got a great deal on, but if you have the option the LH1000 is not that much more money. I *love* my LH500 for any gigging scenario, it stands up to any other head I have used, including GKs, SWRs, and Ampegs. |
08-23-2011, 12:02 PM
| | | | LH1000 is the best money you will ever spend.
True, a little heavy but I hopefully got another 20 years before that's a deciding factor in the buying process.
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08-23-2011, 12:05 PM
|  | Robzilla | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Casper Wyoming USA | | | I'd go with the lh1000 as well. You will love the htdrive cab. those hybrid cones are the bomb! |
08-23-2011, 12:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New-Brunswick, Canada | | | My head in a handmade rack and an EQ unit weighs 46lbs. Yes it is heavy, but also sturdy. With side spring handles it's easy to move around. You will have all the headroom you need and great tone. |
08-23-2011, 04:24 PM
| | | | I'm looking at A new rig as well, and I'd give the HA 3500 a look. It's got better EQ than the LH1000, but I really don't know enough about either of them to make any comparisons. I'd still give it a look, It's supposed to have AMAZING tone quality, and you can pick one up for about $200 used. That's what I'm getting.
Again, though, I have no experience, and just get whatever you want. I just wanted to tell you to give it a look if you hadn't, see if you're interested.
I'd like to try out one of those Hydrive cabs, but unfortunately, I'm on a tight budget. |
08-23-2011, 04:51 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seweracuse, NY | | Hey guys, I have one of the original Hartke 3500's and its a great amp. I bought it in 95 or so and it's been solid since then. Its one of the amps I'd never get rid of.
I will say that the 3500 has gone through a number of iterations, all of which have different track records for tone and quality. If you do want one of these amps, try to find the earlier ones. They're marked on the front panel with "Transient Attack" and the word "MOSFET": 
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08-23-2011, 04:58 PM
| | | | I actually heard that the MOSFET one was a disaster for tone, in all the reviews I read for it. Granted it was only one, but it was AWFUL. gave it like a 3 out of 10. YMMV, though. I'm not chancing it, I'm getting a regular 3500. |
08-23-2011, 04:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seweracuse, NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezmar  I actually heard that the MOSFET one was a disaster for tone, in all the reviews I read for it. Granted it was only one, but it was AWFUL. gave it like a 3 out of 10. YMMV, though. I'm not chancing it, I'm getting a regular 3500. | Do what you'd like, but you may want to do a little more searching on the topic... 
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08-23-2011, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BurningSkies Do what you'd like, but you may want to do a little more searching on the topic... | Nah, I'm good. I don't need any more deliberating. I'll stick with what I've chosen. I think way too hard, so I'm going to quit while I'm ahead. |
11-26-2011, 05:46 PM
| | Robzilla | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Casper Wyoming USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BurningSkies Hey guys, I have one of the original Hartke 3500's and its a great amp. I bought it in 95 or so and it's been solid since then. Its one of the amps I'd never get rid of.
I will say that the 3500 has gone through a number of iterations, all of which have different track records for tone and quality. If you do want one of these amps, try to find the earlier ones. They're marked on the front panel with "Transient Attack" and the word "MOSFET": | +1 I also have this head and I use it more then my LH500 on my hydrive. AWESOME HEAD!!!!!!! |
11-26-2011, 05:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Warwick RI | | | I have the lh1000 and the hx410 cab and gig every weekend with it. I bridge it and run 650 watts at 8 ohms. You also have the option to run parallel and only use 225 watts on those small gigs.
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11-26-2011, 06:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario | | | I own the hydrive 4-10 too!
I use a rack system with preamp and VT pedal (see my sig.).
That said, I love the HX 4-10 so much that I thionk I would use with any damn head. Right now, I primarily use the VT pedal through the Line 6 POd XT pro (on tube pre amp flat setting) with a BBE Sonic Maximizer.. The trick is that I turn off the tweeter on the HX(hydrive) 4-10 cab....Lovely lows and thump with no worries of either: 1) breaking my back 'cause it's light or 2) blowing speakers with the 1000 watts headroom. 
Get the cabinet, order a Custom cover (you will want to believe me) and relax..Will work with anything, solid state, hybred or tube
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11-26-2011, 06:15 PM
| | Robzilla | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Casper Wyoming USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Moosehead1966 I use a rack system with preamp and VT pedal (see my sig.).
That said, I love the HX 4-10 so much that I thionk I would use with any damn head. Right now, I primarily use the VT pedal through the Line 6 POd XT pro (on tube pre amp flat setting) with a BBE Sonic Maximizer.. The trick is that I turn off the tweeter on the HX(hydrive) 4-10 cab....Lovely lows and thump with no worries of either: 1) breaking my back 'cause it's light or 2) blowing speakers with the 1000 watts headroom.
Get the cabinet, order a Custom cover (you will want to believe me) and relax..Will work with anything, solid state, hybred or tube
Marc | Truer words have never been spoken Marc. Hartke hit a home run with these cabs! I'll take these over an ampeg cab any day! |
11-26-2011, 06:41 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: nyc | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BurningSkies | -1 I have an original one as well. I used it for many years with 2 4x10 XL cabs. It lived its life in an SKB case. The amp developed an problem of intermittent shutdown in the middle of gigs. The cause was a cracked PC board. My tech tracked down the problem did some magic (epoxy, jumped the trace) but said he couldn't guarantee that the problem wouldn't resurface. It did. The amp now sits alone waiting for the end.
The tone was useful. I believe this amp was the first to have both a tube and ss pre that your could blend. You can grit from the tube. I am not a big fan of graphic EQ. If you see the Cream reunion video, you see Jack's amp has an frown face EQ on his Hartke.
A thing about Hartke....way back, the company was cutting edge and independent. Sam Ash Music store chain, a prototype for the Guitar Center, bought Hartke. It is one of the companies under Samson. If you are from downstate NY or LI, you are familiar with Sam Ash.
Now imagine Guitar Center buys GK or Genz Benz. Imagine what happens to the product line.....just saying.... |
11-26-2011, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 77PBass -1 I have an original one as well. I used it for many years with 2 4x10 XL cabs. It lived its life in an SKB case. The amp developed an problem of intermittent shutdown in the middle of gigs. The cause was a cracked PC board. My tech tracked down the problem did some magic (epoxy, jumped the trace) but said he couldn't guarantee that the problem wouldn't resurface. It did. The amp now sits alone waiting for the end.
The tone was useful. I believe this amp was the first to have both a tube and ss pre that your could blend. You can grit from the tube. I am not a big fan of graphic EQ. If you see the Cream reunion video, you see Jack's amp has an frown face EQ on his Hartke.A thing about Hartke....way back, the company was cutting edge and independent. Sam Ash Music store chain, a prototype for the Guitar Center, bought Hartke. It is one of the companies under Samson. If you are from downstate NY or LI, you are familiar with Sam Ash.
Now imagine Guitar Center buys GK or Genz Benz. Imagine what happens to the product line.....just saying.... | After seeing that concert I went with the same gear, a HA5500 + HA 3500 with 8x10 and I picked a 2x15 for bottom end. Great gear that never let me down.
These days I still use the 2 heads but downsized the boxes to retain the 2x15 with a 4x10. If I was starting again, I would pick the LH1000 into the Hydrive cab at 650 watts. |
11-29-2011, 02:17 PM
|  | Low End To No End | | Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Muskegon, Michigan | | Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadyVan Halen LH1000 is the best money you will ever spend.
True, a little heavy but I hopefully got another 20 years before that's a deciding factor in the buying process. |
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