Head+Cab Cables Question

Jwaites105 · #1 12-03-2010, 01:48 AM

Hey, i'm picking up a GK 400RB IV and a GK neo 112 in a couple of weeks, was just wondering will the head come with a power cable ? and what kind of cable do I need to connect the head to cabinet?
These: http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/cables...07052916260028

Or these: http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/cables...07052915554128

Bit of a silly quesion but im not sure

Jwaites105 · #2 12-03-2010, 03:41 AM

Thanks for the reply but it isn't what I need to know, I simply need to know what cable do I use to connect my head to my cabinet?

Sartori · #3 12-03-2010, 04:02 AM

If the cab and head both have speakon jacks, use a speakon cable (the kind in the second link). If not, a regular quarter inch speaker cable will work.

The main thing to remember is that you should NOT use an instrument cable.

Jwaites105 · #4 12-03-2010, 04:54 AM

Thanks a lot for the reply, exactly what I neeed to know, i'll go check out the specs

Jwaites105 · #5 12-03-2010, 05:06 AM

Sorry to ask but the head has a 1/4 inch jack input and the cabinet has a speakon input, should I get a speaker cable with one side a speakon and one side a 1/4 such as the 3rd one on this site ?
http://www.bandtmusic.co.uk/acatalog/Speaker_Leads.html

KJung · #6 12-03-2010, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jwaites105

Sorry to ask but the head has a 1/4 inch jack input and the cabinet has a speakon input, should I get a speaker cable with one side a speakon and one side a 1/4 such as the 3rd one on this site ?
http://www.bandtmusic.co.uk/acatalog/Speaker_Leads.html

Yes, that will work great. Get the shortest one you can... that 3ft version on the site is perfect (not a big deal, but just more neat and tidy behind the cab). That will be a nice rig.

Jwaites105 · #7 12-03-2010, 05:15 AM

Thanks for the help, can't wait to get the rig set up, i'll pop on your channel and subscribe

lbwdog · #8 12-03-2010, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jwaites105

Sorry to ask but the head has a 1/4 inch jack input and the cabinet has a speakon input, should I get a speaker cable with one side a speakon and one side a 1/4 such as the 3rd one on this site ?
http://www.bandtmusic.co.uk/acatalog/Speaker_Leads.html

Note that the cable you linked to is 10m, or 33ft. As Ken said, you only need 3-6 ft., so if you can't find a shorter one, you can always use one that has 1/4" plugs on both ends.

KJung · #9 12-03-2010, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lbwdog

Note that the cable you linked to is 10m, or 33ft. As Ken said, you only need 3-6 ft., so if you can't find a shorter one, you can always use one that has 1/4" plugs on both ends.

Holy Moly!!!!! My old eyes saw that as 3.3 ft! Yes, get a short one 3 to 5 feet.

I don't think the new GK Neo boxes have a 1/4 speaker input, due to that 'active crossover' thing.. not sure though. I don't think they use combo jacks either, but rather just a speakon.

It shouldn't be hard to find a relatively short 1/4" to speakon cable for the OP.

sleepytime · #10 12-03-2010, 05:24 AM

I thought the GK cabs with biamp capability came with a 4 conductor Speakon cable included.

Jwaites105 · #11 12-03-2010, 05:24 AM

Thanks for the reply, i'll have a search around.

KJung · #12 12-03-2010, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jwaites105

Thanks for the reply, i'll have a search around.

I just read the PDF product manual on the GK site. The current GK Neo's have both speakon and 1/4" input... so either a simple 1/4 to 1/4 speaker cable (again, make sure it is a SPEAKER cable) or a 1/4 to speakon will work fine.

K

KJung · #13 12-03-2010, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepytime

I thought the GK cabs with biamp capability came with a 4 conductor Speakon cable included.

I don't believe the 400RB he is getting has the speakon outputs, much less the biamp thing.

sleepytime · #14 12-03-2010, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KJung

I don't believe the 400RB he is getting has the speakon outputs, much less the biamp thing.

Oops, you're right. My bleary morning eyes saw 700rb

KJung · #15 12-03-2010, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepytime

Oops, you're right. My bleary morning eyes saw 700rb

I know the feeling! I just verified with the on-line manual. It is confusing, since the newer 400RB models kind of look like the more modern 700/1001 heads with the speakon outs and the 'tweeter/woofer biamp capability (versus the 800RB, which still has the 'classic' GK look). My head was spinning for a moment!

Head: 1/4 outs
Cab: Speakon or 1/4 input.

So, either way, he is fine. Again, that will be a very nice lightweight rig!!!!!!!

lbwdog · #16 12-03-2010, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KJung

I don't believe the 400RB he is getting has the speakon outputs, much less the biamp thing.

+1
You might have to make your own cable if you can't find a short one with two different plugs on it. That's easy enough though if you feel like you must have a Speakon.
Just take a 1/4" to 1/4" cable, cut off one plug and wire a Speakon plug to it.

Jwaites105 · #17 12-03-2010, 05:37 AM

Thanks a lot for the help. Ill go look for a nice 3-5ft speakon cable

best to get the speakon instead of a 1/4 incase its misplaced as a instrument cable or vice versa

lbwdog · #18 12-03-2010, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jwaites105

Thanks a lot for the help. Ill go look for a nice 3-5ft speakon cable

best to get the speakon instead of a 1/4 incase its misplaced as a instrument cable or vice versa

Speakon won't work at the amp. It only has 1/4" outputs.

Jwaites105 · #19 12-03-2010, 05:45 AM

Oh ok sorry, im not very good with amp tech xD the Neo manual says it has a speakon connector, and the head has a 1/4, so will a 1/4 on both sides be fine ?

lbwdog · #20 12-03-2010, 05:46 AM

Another thing: G-K supplies a 4 conductor Speakon-Speakon cable with the cab (at least they used to). You can modify one end with a 1/4" plug, but you have to make sure you connect the correct two leads to the phone plug.

really, If it were me, I'd just go with a 1/4" to 1/4" and call it a day>