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11-03-2010, 12:54 PM
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Ok so the situation is, i have a hartke LH500 (500 Wats at 8 ohms) im considering selling the hartke and buying a Peavey T-Max. The cab that i run is a 1000 Wat at 4 ohm behringer 4x10.
Questions:
Will the T-max power it well?
Will the T-max have a better sound than the Hartke?
Is it worth it?
Edit: forgot to post the CL ad and model of T-max
Peavey T-MAX 550 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/msg/2036609308.html
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11-03-2010, 01:17 PM
|  | Stuck somewhere in the 90's | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA | | | If I were You, I would try the Tmaxx out with Your cab and see how it fairs. If You like it do it, if not its no big loss.
It seems like the Tmaxx has a couple of extra bells and whistles, that the LH500 doesn't have. However You wouldn't be gaining anything extra in the watts department with the Tmaxx versus the LH 500.
(IMO) I would stay with the LH 500, because I like the fact that they dont have all the extra knobs and buttons (keeping it simple). The LH series of amps have that blank canvas appeal, where You can throw what ever effects You want if front of'em to get a desired tone. Whereas the Tmaxx that has all those goodies built in giving it the, is what it is feel. |
11-03-2010, 01:28 PM
| | | | will i loose any in wats, i dont know much about tube, expecially tube and solid state in 1 amp
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11-03-2010, 01:40 PM
|  | One lab accident away from being a supervillain | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Powder Springs, Ga | | If I'm reading the manual correctly, you will only get 350W out of the Peavey at 4 ohms, whereas you will get 500W out of the Hartke at 4 ohms. Then again, that Behringer cab probably can't handle anywhere near the 1000W it claims.
I'd stick with the Hartke. The tone stack is pretty cool on those, though a bit counterintuitive. Quote:
Originally Posted by mralex  will i loose any in wats, i dont know much about tube, expecially tube and solid state in 1 amp | Both amps have SS power sections which will put out less power at higher impedances unlike tube power sections which tend to put out the same power regardless of impedance. The tube in the Hartke is in the preamp and will not affect power output. Loudness is a whole separate issue.
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11-03-2010, 01:46 PM
| | | | i might jsut sell the xbox and get both hahaha, that would solve the issue!
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11-03-2010, 01:47 PM
| | Stuck somewhere in the 90's | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA | | | The term to describe that type of amp (tube/ solid state), would be hybrid. Of which both the Tmaxx and LH500 amps are hybrids, (having a tube pre-amp and solid state power-amp sections). |
11-03-2010, 01:52 PM
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11-03-2010, 02:12 PM
| | One lab accident away from being a supervillain | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Powder Springs, Ga | | Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Mal want better tone ? more volume ? upgrade to a better cab ... | + infinity
A better cab will change your world.
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11-03-2010, 02:18 PM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | hartke lh500 is a super head. t-max is too but you've already got a good head so that's not your problem. your problem is that behringer cab. get rid of it and get a good cab. a cheap bass and cheap head will sound great going through a good cab. a great bass and a great head going through a cheap cab will sound like crap.
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11-03-2010, 02:22 PM
| | | | ok so cab recomendations?
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11-03-2010, 02:23 PM
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Owner: LilRay's Leatherworks | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between my Roscoe and Leather | | Actually I own a T-Max and IIRC to get 500 watts out of it, you have to run it @ 2 ohms. It runs 350 W @ 4 ohms.
Great head though. Nearly indestructable. 
God Bless, Ray
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11-03-2010, 02:28 PM
|  | Wild boys always shine | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hooterville, Arkansas BR549 | | | I have owned both of those heads, and they are both great, and both will easily kill that behringer cab...lol...if you want them to. You can't go wrong with either, but the LH500 has more power at 4 ohms, ... but the Tmax will do a 2 ohm load @ 500 watts, and has graphic EQ, and has a decent overdrive with its tube pre, whereas the LH500 will not provide any grit with its tube pre, and you can combine the tube and solid state preamps with the Tmax....which is why I sold my LH, and still have the Tmax.
Incidentally, $350 is a bit much for that Tmax, unless you just REALLY want it....or maybe I need to go UP on the price of my Tmax, which I have had for sale.
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11-03-2010, 02:40 PM
| | | | it probably is high concidering the t max has been in his ad since begining of octoer, which is where i have room to negotiate
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11-03-2010, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mralex ok so cab recomendations? | anything but behringer  and don't get the lowest priced cabs out of most common brands. other than that, most are pretty good. don't have to pay a fortune, but get something of quality. used 410's of good quality are commonplace.
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11-03-2010, 03:02 PM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | Quote:
Originally Posted by mralex | not familiar with it.
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11-03-2010, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mralex | +1 on replacing your cab.
I suggest taking your amp and trying out the cabs you listed.
How about the Ampeg 4x12 cab in your original post?
or this one: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/msg/1985402065.html
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11-03-2010, 03:14 PM
| | Stuck somewhere in the 90's | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by mralex | I agree with the other guys here that a good cab goes a long way. I can't speak for the behringer or the Kustom cabs from my own experience, but the talk I have heard about their stuff around the camp fires here wasn't very good. Seems to me the asking prices on the used stuff You are looking at are a bit high. I am sure that there are some great deals on some used cabs in Your area. I see used Ampeg 410's going for around the $350-$400 range in my area. I actually sold an 810 for $450 a few months back. Just keep Your eyes peeled and a good one will come up. |
11-03-2010, 03:17 PM
| | | | ok thanks for all the help guys!
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