Help identifying a 10" speaker please...

[FeralHorse]

Hi all,

I have an 8x10" bass box (unbranded) and when I bought it there were only 3 of the original 8 speakers left. (Also has 4 Eminence Alphas in it.) I have searched and googled for info as to what they are so that I can get the other 4 going. I hope someone may be able to help, as I believe that 32 Ohm speakers are not that common.

The speaker looks mass produced, with a printed sticker on the side of the magnet (magnet diameter about 5"/120mm). I assume this sticker contains the model number and maybe a serial number as well. The sticker reads;

(In large lettering)
PS-10FL-32

(In smaller lettering)
10840 32 Ohm
67-96200350 G1

Also, the back of the speaker cone has the following printed, which I assume is a month/year of manufacture and maybe a serial or model number...

2 96
451033-1

I have attached a really bad photo if it helps at all.

Any help identifying this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much,
Feral.

[johnk_10]

looks like an Eminence 10" speaker to me. its date code indicates it was muanufactured the 50th week of 2003.
Eminence 32 ohm 10" speakers were commonly used in ampeg 8x10 svt cabs.

[FeralHorse]

Hi John,

Thanks so much for the reply.

I purchased the box in 2003 and it was several years old then, so maybe it isn't a date code... Considering both the chassis and cone have 2 and 96 in their first few digits, I am thinking this may have been built in Feb of '96.

It certainly isn't a name brand box like Ampeg. The box has a 'home made' feel to it, maybe like a carpenter who wanted to branch into something new. For this reason I also think that the speakers would be one of the cheaper brands, or at least a cheaper model. They certainly may be Eminence.

Cheers,
Feral.

[billfitzmaurice]

I don't recall Carvin ever having a 32 ohm driver but the PS10 was a Carvin model number, OEM'd from Eminence.

[FeralHorse]

Thanks Bill,

That gives me somewhere to start.

Cheers, Feral.

[johnk_10]

this number: 67-96200350 G1 contains the manufaturer (Eminence) and date code. the 03 is the year and the 50 is the week.

[realbadgroove]

Eminence 10" speaker for sure what ohm.... not sure

[FeralHorse]

Hi johnk & realbadgroove,

<scratches head>I'd put my life on the fact that I bought the box in early 2003 and I have never replace a speaker. Interesting...</scratching> Maybe I'm losing my memory!

OK then, it's unanimous, looks like they are Eminence.

The Alphas in the box must have been purchased around the same time. They are heavily branded as Eminence, but maybe Eminence were going through a marketing/promo change at the time. The speakers in question look somewhat different, so I would doubt they are a generic labeled Alpha.

I can't find any evidence of a 32 Ohm speaker in the Eminence 10" range these days... Any ideas of a model number, or series?

Thanks so much.

Cheers, Feral

[Jaco who?]

http://www.usspeaker.com/legend%20b810-1.htm

Don't know if that's the best deal around or not, probably not, but there was a thread about these things a few weeks, maybe a month ago. Search on "legend 810" might yield some results.

[FeralHorse]

Hi Jaco,

Thanks for the reply.

So, do you think my speaker might be a Legend 810, or was that just a suggestion as to a suitable replacement?

Thanks, Feral

Edit - OK, so I found the link for the Legend B810 discussion. Sounds like they are new, so I assume it was a suggestion for replacement. Thanks.

[johnk_10]

the legend B810 is a more recent speaker than your's. your's may be more like this one:

http://www.speakerrepair.com/mm5/mer...Category_Code=

[1n3]

Eminence, but apparently from 1996, not 2003.

http://eminence.com/faqs/faq6.asp

[johnk_10]

good call.

and that explains the cab being as old as it is too.
i must've been thinking about CTS's date code system.

[FeralHorse]

Originally Posted by johnk_10

the legend B810 is a more recent speaker than your's. your's may be more like this one:

http://www.speakerrepair.com/mm5/mer...Category_Code=

Wow. Thanks JohnK, you've nailed that one! I dare say that's the one. Looks pretty much identical.

So, I've checked out a few searched TBs site for info on the 86-032-01 and found this thread. The photo on this post confirms this is the beast. (Well almost.) Even the label and the printing is the same.

So, would I be correct in assuming that the official item number 86-032-01 is an official Eminence part number, and the PS-10FL-32 is an OEM model made by Eminence for some other company? If so, then this may not be 100% the same as mine. The 86-032-01 has a spec number of 324, whereas mine is 840.

Final questions (for now anyway!) - Does anyone know if Eminence kept the spec numbers the same even for OEM components? In other words, if my PS-10FL-32 was just a rebadged 86-032-01, would the spec number still be 10324? Or did they generate new spec numbers for OEM components?

Originally Posted by 1n3

Eminence, but apparently from 1996, not 2003.

Thanks 1n3, I thought I was going nuts there for a minute!

Thanks to all, these mysterious speakers have been bugging me for years!

Cheers, Feral.

[billfitzmaurice]

Originally Posted by FeralHorse

Does anyone know if Eminence kept the spec numbers the same even for OEM components? In other words, if my PS-10FL-32 was just a rebadged 86-032-01, would the spec number still be 10324? Or did they generate new spec numbers for OEM components?

The Eminence stock number is unique to the OEM, but not necessarily the specs. Perhaps half the OEM drivers from Eminence are exactly the same as in-line models save for the label and stock number, maybe 40% have specs that are very close to, but not identical to, in-line, and perhaps 10% are unique.

[FeralHorse]

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the reply.

So, if I grab myself an 86-032-01 and run it in parallel with 3 PS-10FL-32's I shouldn't have too much of a problem?

Cheers, Feral

[billfitzmaurice]

Originally Posted by FeralHorse

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the reply.

So, if I grab myself an 86-032-01 and run it in parallel with 3 PS-10FL-32's I shouldn't have too much of a problem?

Cheers, Feral

Only if they have similar specs, which you don't know yet. It probably is close, but only Eminence can say for sure.

[FeralHorse]

Thanks Bill,

I have emailed them, so I'll wait and see if I get a reply.

Cheers, Feral.

[will33]

Eminence has always been helpful to me when trying to ID old speakers. Email them all those numbers and they'll send you back whatever info they've got. They only time they won't is if they're propretary or still in use by some manufacturer who'd like to keep the info to themselves. If they're not in production you can compare specs and find something pretty close that is.

[FeralHorse]

Thanks Will,

I'll wait for their reply.

Cheers, Feral.