help! is my stack gonna set on fire?

[ryanmonshall100]

are hartke a good make?

[hdracer]

Yes, Hartke makes good reliable amps

[RickenBoogie]

I agree, buy used, get a "better" brand of amp, (300 watts +), and start with one 8 ohm spkr cab. A good 4x10 should do just fine. If later down the road, you want to get even louder, get a 2nd identical 4x10, and you will have a killer big rig. The 410/115 pairing is a mis-match, since the 410 can handle much more power, so each cab gets equal power to them, and you're limited to whatever the smaller 1x15 is capable of, leaving the 410 being under-utilised, and the 15 in danger of blowing if you push it too hard. You wouldn't hear the 15 straining because the 410 would be drowning it out.

[ThisBass]

I'd suggest:
Tube preamp
Class-D with approx 1500..2000 Watt
212 light weight cab with neo speakers and 3" voice coil.

...hope you can afford this.
If not then wait some time longer.

[ThisBass]

Originally Posted by RickenBoogie

I agree, buy used, get a "better" brand of amp, (300 watts +), and start with one 8 ohm spkr cab. A good 4x10 should do just fine. If later down the road, you want to get even louder, get a 2nd identical 4x10, and you will have a killer big rig. The 410/115 pairing is a mis-match, since the 410 can handle much more power, so each cab gets equal power to them, and you're limited to whatever the smaller 1x15 is capable of, leaving the 410 being under-utilised, and the 15 in danger of blowing if you push it too hard. You wouldn't hear the 15 straining because the 410 would be drowning it out.

That's not true.

My experience is different.
The +15 gives more bottom and low end and more volume to the all over all sound performance and the feel.

My 212 cab provides a similar SPL like my SVT 810.
But the performance and the feel is total different.

Large Xmax can't replace cone surface.


BTW,
my old 70's SVT emminence vintage speakers are garbage,

the speakers in my 212 cab are modern excellent performing neo's with high Xmax ....

[ThisBass]

Originally Posted by ryanmonshall100

are hartke a good make?

Some years ago I played the Hartke 3500 Top + Hartke 410 + WW15.

A good sounding system. Even with WW15.

Some time later I played the same system but the WW15 was obsolete.
Good sounding system anyway but I missed the WW15 this moment.
The lack of cone surface was audible, the feeling was a bit slack.

Hope that helps.

I don't know from where you come from,
FMC in Germany builds cabs similar like the GloKla cabs for half the pricing.

[basscooker]

we still need to get your budget, and it could also help if we knew what you currently use-- bass, what if any pedals, what amp etc...

if you have a newish digital pedalboard with a LINE out, you may be able to kill two birds with one stone here, i'll explain: pick up a decent power amp with around 300 watts per channel, and one or two decent pa speakers. pa stuff can typically be found easily and inexpensively. anyway, the line output from the pedal feeds into one side of the power amp, then into one of the speakers. you have a functioning bass rig AND still have one side of the amp and a second speaker for use at practice for vocal, for gigs as a monitor, or a keyboard. once you get to a point where a really good bass rig is in order, you're only a passive mixer away from having a little pa of your own, and you won't have a crappy bass rig you don't need.

[walterw]

+1

a sansamp BDDI preamp into half a PA power amp into two bass cabs is how i do it, and it crushes.

the other half of the power amp gets used for monitors or whatever else i need.

[walterw]

Originally Posted by ThisBass

My experience is different.
The +15 gives more bottom and low end and more volume to the all over all sound performance and the feel.

no, it's the same experience

the 15 underneath raises up the 4x10 so it's easier to hear, and does add some overall volume and low end.

the argument is only that another identical 4x10 would have been way more powerful and more even in response.

[Gearhead17]

Originally Posted by ryanmonshall100

are hartke a good make?

Yes. Search for a used rig on craigslist.org Post what you find on here and we can help you figure out which rig would work best for you.

[bongomania]

Originally Posted by ThisBass

That's not true.

My experience is different.

Experience = subjective perception. "Truth" is another animal entirely.

[chadds]

Originally Posted by walterw

no, it's the same experience

the 15 underneath raises up the 4x10 so it's easier to hear, and does add some overall volume and low end.

the argument is only that another identical 4x10 would have been way more powerful and more even in response.

& walking around the room reveals the problems that he can't hear standing right in front.

[ThisBass]

Originally Posted by bongomania

Experience = subjective perception. "Truth" is another animal entirely.

Hm, ...yes

Many years ago I did a science work on some fiber optic cables.

The "experience" showed that the Mode Field is similar like a Gaussian bell.
And even Mode Filed measurement equipment used Gaussian bell curve.

The "Truth" was another animal entirely ...that was a lots of painful math