hitting the stage with two amps when playing locals???...

[Devo-lution]

One of my pedals can split the signal so I can direct it to two different amps. So, when I was bored, I tried out how this would turn out. So, I connected my little mark II with eden 410 XST and put my carlsbro 30 watt bassbaby on top of it. All of the extreme effects went to the bassbaby, while low end keepers ran through the markbass.

And frankly, I liked the sounds it gave me. Certainly not for every gig/rehearsal (takes a lot of time to set up), but I experienced several advantages. I loved the sound when running my Granny puker only through the smallest of the two.

So two questions about such things?

How is it even possible that my 30 watt could keep up? ... Okay, I didn't put the mark above 12' clock, but still... I could clearly hear the tones from the little 1x10

And most importantly the fundamental question of this topique: If I'd go live with a rig like this in a local scene, am I to encounter problems with the sound engineer / PA system and the balancing of both signals?

Thanks a lot
Grtz

[christw]

It'd just be like mixing in an extra guitarist. Some guys might give you a little crap due to having two amps to mix in though. It's not the craziest idea out there by far. I still think of it from time to time.

I'd love to run my Ric's bridge through an OD'd tube guitar head / cab (with ultra lows filtered out) and neck through a bass cab and mix it. I just need a splitter and either an EQ pedal (cheaper way) or outboard crossover to do that.

[christw]

I finally just did it by the way. Highway 1 P with flats into:

Peavey Alphabass -> GK 610
Elk Miyuki Custom 30 -> Avatar 115

VERY bright, middy, trebly tone with a medium light OD on top and a deeep bottom end from the 610. It would rock for pop punk, hard rock, and just about anything that involves pick playing.

This is a MUST HAVE rig for my next band now.

Perhaps too be to be useful?

[Devo-lution]

But you actually use your ric to split the signal... I use the same signal of only one pick up for both (Stingray 2EQ )...

[lbanks]

I'm using two amps currently, a Superfly into a Acme B2 and a Behringer 300wt into a Basson B115. But this is only until I get my Sunn fixed. But I do like the sound. I once tried two BBE BMax Preamps into a Mackie poweramp, but the weight was evil. Currently using a Stereo Electric Mistress to split the signal.

[christw]

I just used me P Bass into the Peavey. I ran the line out from the Peavey straight into the input of the Elk. That put the Elk into a light, bright OD.

I haven't toyed with the Ric yet. I need a stereo cable and have a 20' stereo to mono Y-cable with my 360 back in Dayton... :/

[coreyfyfe]

We played a gig with a band, I can't remember the name right now, whose guitar player used three heads into 2 1x12 cabs and a 2x12 cab. The bass player was using a late 70s SVT/8x10. The sound this guy had was outstanding, very nice blending of tones across the three amps, very tasty. Sure it was probably a pain to set up, but if you're running pedals, why not just set up a pedal board with ins/outs all set to go for the two amps? Then you just need to set up the amps, and really since it's a little 1x10 combo it's just one extra mic for the sound guy and one extra piece of gear for you. If it worked for your sound then go for it.

[Devo-lution]

So, okay... PA guys can do it but might get a little grumpy...

Anyone knows how many signals average spare time sound technician can handle? The band I'd like to use this two amp thing in already has a guitard, hammond, synthesizer, theremin and huge drum. There are also idea's to get some percussion going on :')...

Sure mr spare time sound guy won't get angry if there is yet another signal?

[bjlevine]

I have to do this, as I play in a Yes tribute. Run a clean side to a Sunn Coliseum head with Sunn 2x15" cabinet and the effects side through a Marshall head into a Sunn 6x10" cabinet. You get a perfect tonal sandwich with bright highs and solid low end. Hard to go back to one amp once you get used to it.

Yeah, the PA guys hate me as I also need a third channel for my bass pedal synth.

[nysbob]

I did it for years...and stil do for certain gigs. No big deal if you're willing to schlepp it all.

[countrybass007]

I always use two rigs, currently an Orange Tiny Terror bass with an SP212 and an OBC115, and a Phil Jones Suitcase. I also split the signal with a pedal, and soundmen just take the signal off the Phil Jones with the built in direct out. Seems to make everybody happy, and I love the sound.

[Mr. Foxen]

Amateurs

[6jase5]

I went a little nuts at a show with all the time in the world to set up for and had the SVT and Fridge running clean while 2 Ampeg b100r's sitting on either side got the effects, with one only getting the one side of a stereo chorus and the other getting all the fuzz and delay.

Probably had a bunch of cancelling and techy reasons not to do it, but it sounded amazing to me all mic'd up.

When I played guitar, always split a marshall 800jcm, Bogner or Rivera "dirty" (volume dependent overdriven) and either a roland jc120 or musicman hd120 "clean" w/ the non distortion effects.

[will33]

Plenty of folks make that kinda grit using a crossover and sending clean 200hz or so and lower to a bass rig and above that with dirt to a guitar amp. It does require you to occupy 2 channels at the board. A lot of times a DI for the cleaner lows and a 57 on the top box treating it like another guitar amp.

[silky smoove]

Originally Posted by will33

Plenty of folks make that kinda grit using a crossover and sending clean 200hz or so and lower to a bass rig and above that with dirt to a guitar amp. It does require you to occupy 2 channels at the board. A lot of times a DI for the cleaner lows and a 57 on the top box treating it like another guitar amp.

+1

I'd only do this if I had an active crossover splitting the signal beforehand. Having upper mids and treble in both amps might result in an overly bright tone. Also, having low end in both amps would likely result in the smaller of the two amps being shy on volume and power since it was trying to produce sound in a range it was ill-equipped to cover.

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally Posted by Mr. Foxen

Amateurs

why are you calling these guys amateurs?