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Old 01-15-2013, 01:59 AM
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^ You know your gear is heavy when you bring cinder blocks to set your PA on
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^ You know your gear is heavy when you bring cinder blocks to set your PA on
Ya, the cinder blocks were there because the flashpots were sitting where the monitors would have gone.

That was a soundcheck, BTW. The gig was a New Year's Eve gig.
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Probably sounded pretty good too.
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seen some loud-ass post-punk bands in bars with 100w heads on SVT cabs, with weak bass not being a problem.

maybe not with hi-fi crystal clarity, but there was plenty of "bass guitar" coming off the stage.
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seen some loud-ass post-punk bands in bars with 100w heads on SVT cabs, with weak bass not being a problem.

maybe not with hi-fi crystal clarity, but there was plenty of "bass guitar" coming off the stage.
Yeah, but those were tube watts.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:39 AM
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Two 2x12's vertically stacked, 250-350 watts, fdeck hpf/pre, compressor.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:50 AM
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We did tons of old BOC, AC/DC, Sabbath, UFO, etc. Pretty good band, hair actually. Even had flashpotshighlights.
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Two 2x12's vertically stacked, 250-350 watts, fdeck hpf/pre, compressor.
I would have to agree with that
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:41 AM
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I did the 300 watt SS, 500 watt SS for a number of years for bar bands, parties.

Then I experienced my first all tube svt. Then I experienced my first db750 rig.

Now for any medium to large gig my db751.

The reason I love the bigger power amps is not really for vol but for feel and dynamics. As a player over last 20 years I have really started mastering dynamics without using a compressor. I feel more dynamic musically with a db751 than a 300 watt SS. And when you have a solo you have the power on tap for that extra pop when needed.

For small gigs I use a 500 watt lm tube and a 210. The extra headroom helps keep the lows tight.
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Just because you like it so loud it's deafening at 50 paces doesn't mean everyone else's "loud" is invalid.

Many inexperiened bands fall into trying to play far too loud everywhere they go. Some of us would like to paint a different picture of the world from the standard bigger is louder is better forever paradigm.

The drummer sets the stage volume, not the sound monkey - regardless of your opinion on the matter... I play only as loud as I need to, in order to hear the notes I'm playing - no louder...


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Old 01-15-2013, 09:26 AM
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Just because he prefers amps with more headroom doesn't mean he's playing at deafening loud levels But I do see your point.
Exactly - "down" is one of the "soundman before bassists" here that think bass should be seen and not heard...


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Just to bring back some perspective. Someone claimed that you couldn't bring a guitarist and drummer together where the V4B and an 810 couldn't keep up. George took issue with that, as do I. I think the disagreements are getting a little convoluted. Or I could b wrong....who knows!
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Just to bring back some perspective. Someone claimed that you couldn't bring a guitarist and drummer together where the V4B and an 810 couldn't keep up. George took issue with that, as do I. I think the disagreements are getting a little convoluted. Or I could b wrong....who knows!

No, that sums it up pretty well as far as I'm concerned, Dan - except I *think* he said 2 guitars and drums...

IME, 100 "tube" watts is simply not enough in a loud 2 guitar band, regardless of cab choice...


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No, that sums it up pretty well as far as I'm concerned, Dan - except I *think* he said 2 guitars and drums...

IME, 100 "tube" watts is simply not enough in a loud 2 guitar band, regardless of cab choice...


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Yeah the V4B has only so much clean volume. Now an SVT + 810.... that is probably accurate to claim there isn't much it couldn't handle.
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If he was, I'm not
Geezer rockers don't count - I've farted louder than you typically play...


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Just to bring back some perspective. Someone claimed that you couldn't bring a guitarist and drummer together where the V4B and an 810 couldn't keep up. George took issue with that, as do I. I think the disagreements are getting a little convoluted. Or I could b wrong....who knows!
Have you ever seen Motorhead live?
Lemmy's 100 watt Marshall on top of a 415 and a 412 is one of the loudest rigs I have heard in a club.

My Fender Bassman 100T has yet to let me down volume wise.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:44 AM
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Yeah the V4B has only so much clean volume. Now an SVT + 810.... that is probably accurate to claim there isn't much it couldn't handle.
No argument here with that...


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Have you ever seen Motorhead live?
Lemmy's 100 watt Marshall on top of a 415 and a 412 is one of the loudest rigs I have heard in a club.

My Fender Bassman 100T has yet to let me down volume wise.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Lemmy usually use more than one 100 watt tube amp??? Besides, he's almost more of a rhythm guitarist than a bassist...


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