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Old 10-22-2010, 08:29 AM
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How many of you use your tweeter/horn?

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My main rig doesn't have one, but it's always off on my practice rig at home (YamahaBBT500H/210). Don't dig the shrill tones & have maybe played two cabs that had horns that didn't sound shrill... One being my Schroeder & the other being a Wayne Jones.
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My main rig doesn't have one, but it's always off on my practice rig at home (YamahaBBT500H/210). Don't dig the shrill tones & have maybe played two cabs that had horns that didn't sound shrill... One being my Schroeder & the other being a Wayne Jones.
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:38 AM
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I'm one of the few who actually like the sound of a driver/tweeter. I think the key is to have an attenuator on the tweeter to tame it down a bit.
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:44 AM
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In my 12" DIY cabs, it is necessary to retain any high end.

With other cabs, I've never really used it because it wasn't necessary for my tone (and it sounds bad with distortion).

In my practice rig, the tweeter is turned on most of the time because of the drum computer in the effects loop. A drumkit sounds baaad when it's low passed at 5 kHz.
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:49 AM
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I'm one of the few who actually like the sound of a driver/tweeter. I think the key is to have an attenuator on the tweeter to tame it down a bit.
I have mine set at -12db. I know it's practically off, but I just can't bring myself to go all the way.....
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:06 AM
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I'm one of the few who actually like the sound of a driver/tweeter
You are kidding right Virtually every one of the 100 or so bass players I know and hang with use full range cabs and love them.

Of course, there are thousands of bassists who like an old school tone or use flatwound strings, or use distortion, where a tweeter would at best not matter, and at worst sound like dog.

And yes, to the OP, like anything else, a 'bad' tweeter sounds, well, bad

IMO, one of the things that causes at least some to not like tweeters is user error.. thinking that the 'noon' setting on an attenuator is 'flat' and hence the best setting. A tweeter will also lay poor technique brutally bare.

I always chuckle at this topic, with all the guys who say 'I play bass, not treble' and other idiotic rot. That is about the most ignorant comment I ever heard, since extending the top end of a cab has NOTHING to do with the low end response (and in some cases, allows you to use a driver that has MORE low end response).

Tweeters don't 'suck', and tweeters aren't applicable for all playing styles.

This post is not directed to you, but you gave me the excuse to rant
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:07 AM
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I like them. They can bring a clarity the the high controls on the amp (or the pre on the bass) don't. I play bass, not a drum, so I need the whole spectrum, not just lows.

I've had tweets in everything since I got a Hartley 4.5XL back around 1996. Since then I've used Eden D XLT cabs (410 & 212), E/A, and Avatar.

There are controls to tame the shrillness, on the amp, the cab, and the bass, as well as in your fingers.

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Old 10-22-2010, 09:21 AM
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You are kidding right Virtually every one of the 100 or so bass players I know and hang with use full range cabs and love them.

Of course, there are thousands of bassists who like an old school tone or use flatwound strings, or use distortion, where a tweeter would at best not matter, and at worst sound like dog.

And yes, to the OP, like anything else, a 'bad' tweeter sounds, well, bad

IMO, one of the things that causes at least some to not like tweeters is user error.. thinking that the 'noon' setting on an attenuator is 'flat' and hence the best setting. A tweeter will also lay poor technique brutally bare.

I always chuckle at this topic, with all the guys who say 'I play bass, not treble' and other idiotic rot. That is about the most ignorant comment I ever heard, since extending the top end of a cab has NOTHING to do with the low end response (and in some cases, allows you to use a driver that has MORE low end response).

Tweeters don't 'suck', and tweeters aren't applicable for all playing styles.

This post is not directed to you, but you gave me the excuse to rant
+1, and I did'nt want to offend all those 12/6 and 15/6 users out there in bassland.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:28 AM
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A tweeter will also lay poor technique brutally bare.
Dang! That smarts man!
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:42 AM
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The tweeters on my Eden cabs sounded OK as long as they were turned down a bit. I can go either way depending on the cab, and the gig
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:56 AM
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I'm using a coax Bag End, so the tweeter is pretty much full blast. I'm not a stainless string, crazy slap guy either. I'm using a P bass with flats (although I do still slap them when the occasion calls for it), so I guess I'm in a real minority.

I think the tweeter really adds a lot on the top that I feel I'm missing with tweeterless cabs.
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Old 10-22-2010, 10:45 AM
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I'm a big tweeter fan. I'm using a GK 700RB-II and the dual tweeter and woofer volumes is just an awesome option when using their bi-amp feature.

Right now I have the woofer at dead 12 and the tweeter around 2.
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I'm a big tweeter fan. I'm using a GK 700RB-II and the dual tweeter and woofer volumes is just an awesome option when using their bi-amp feature.

Right now I have the woofer at dead 12 and the tweeter around 2.
That's a unique and interesting implementation of a two way cab. The biamp allows you to grind up the woofers a bit with that classic GK grind, and then put some pure, clean upper treble over that classic 'one way cab warmth and grind, and even all out distortion'. Pretty slick.
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Dang! That smarts man!
Hey, me too.... it can really send you to the woodshed sometimes.
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Old 10-22-2010, 11:11 AM
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At some point I will disable the tweeter on my Ampeg BA115 to get rid of the hiss they are notorious for. I doubt I'll miss it, I'm going for an old school tone anyway.
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Old 10-22-2010, 11:14 AM
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I use one cab with a tweet and one without (112s), the tweeter attenuator is set halfway up, highs are slightly backed of with the EQ. Love it adding some glassyness to the tone. And I don't even think it sounds bad with distortion, although I don't use a lot and I don't add redicoulous amounts of highs.
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Old 10-22-2010, 11:28 AM
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I use them on both of my cabs. Eden 2x10 XST, Acme Series II 2x10.
I like then because they have attenuators and you can adjust as needed or not.
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Old 10-22-2010, 11:40 AM
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I prefer to leave the tweeter full on, and turn down the highs on the eq. This prevents getting a nice sound on the amp while sending a brutally "crisp" tone to the sound guy.
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Old 10-22-2010, 11:43 AM
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That's a unique and interesting implementation of a two way cab. The biamp allows you to grind up the woofers a bit with that classic GK grind, and then put some pure, clean upper treble over that classic 'one way cab warmth and grind, and even all out distortion'. Pretty slick.
I completely agree. Being able to dial those in separately was the reason I went with GK in the first place. Though I'm probably ruining that a bit by also using an overdrive pedal, right...
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Old 10-22-2010, 11:56 AM
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I generally find that tweeters add a lot of presence and high-end definition that just can't be achieved with normal drivers. I usually have a tweeter on and tweaked for the room. With that said, coaxial drivers sound more natural to my ears.
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