How much volume can I expect out of a Glockenklang Soul II?

[Flatbass]

I'm planning on buying a Glockenklang Soul II, but I'm wondering if it will be loud enough. I'll be using it for jazz gigs with the double bass, but also in a loud rock band. Right now I have an SWR Workingman's 4x10 (8 ohm), but buying/adding a Glockenklang 2x12 is also an option.

The drummer is loud (earplugs are definitely needed) and the guitarist is using a Randall 4x12 + head.
My current amplifier, a 400 watt SWR Workingman's, is not loud enough.

I don't really want to buy the Heart-Rock, because it weighs more than I want to carry and I don't need all the extra volume all the time.

What are your experiences with the Soul II in loud bands?

Thanks.

[sukraM]

I've been asking myself the same question. My local music store has both Soul II and HeartRock II in stock, and I'm planning to borrow both amps this week for a rehearsal with my LOUD band.
I really fell for the sound of the HeartRock - until I tried to lift up those 19kg. That's when I started considering his little brother which is only 11kg.
Well, we'll see - next week I might be able to give you a volume review.

[Randall]

At 440 watts at 4 ohms it will not be any louder than your swr. Time to buy another cab perhaps?

[sukraM]

Here's the test results I promised last week. During a rehearsal I tried 3 different amps on a pair of SWR Goliath III cabs (4x10", 8 Ohm each).

YES: Driving a 4 Ohm load, the Soul II is loud enough to make itself easily be heard in a loud band.
BUT: At high volume the sound quality degrades noticeably, even before the clipping LED of the power amp lights up.

So for myself I'm ruling the Soul II out. As I mentioned before, my band is quite loud - for a band with more decent volume, it would be my first choice.

The Heart-Rock II sounded great, and it has more than enough volume for my needs. The only reason why I did not buy it straight away was my third amp under test, a Mesa Boogie M6. Although it has some flaws (significant preamp noise even with decent treble settings, loud fan), it has such a rich and lively sound, especially at the low end. I immediately felt comfortable with it.

Haven't made my choice yet, I wish I could get them both

[Flanker]

Another possible option ...

I have a Glockenklang BAC preamp with a powersoft poweramp, pretty light and tons of power and amazing tone?