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07-13-2010, 03:02 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milford, CT | | | How would I switch a cab from 4 to 8 ohms?
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I have a Dr Bass 2460D cab I bought last year new. Please spare me the DR Bass drama and issues. I love the cab. Lucky I got it and I doubt I can get help from Dr Bass. Let's move on.
It turned out to be 4 ohms when it was supposed to be 8 ohms. Can I change the existing 12" neo drivers and get it to 8ohms? Which drivers?
Any other ideas on how to get it to 8 ohms?
Anyone have a 2460d/neo in 9.5/10 condition at 8 ohms that they want to swap for a 4 ohm?
--Kevin | 
07-13-2010, 03:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brookfield, CT | | | You can't really do it properly, even with a driver swap, because the crossover won't work correctly with a different load. Might sound OK, might not. | 
07-13-2010, 03:14 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada | | | Why the need for the change??? A four ohm cabinet is suitable for both a SS and a tubr amplifier.
Paul | 
07-13-2010, 03:15 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: rio grande valley, texas | | you'd need to change out all the drivers (be sure they spec the same in every way but for resistance) and crossover. not really cost effective. better to try for a swap, or sell the cab and get what your really want. cheers, ron Quote:
Originally Posted by tiz_1 I have a Dr Bass 2460D cab I bought last year new. Please spare me the DR Bass drama and issues. I love the cab. Lucky I got it and I doubt I can get help from Dr Bass. Let's move on.
It turned out to be 4 ohms when it was supposed to be 8 ohms. Can I change the existing 12" neo drivers and get it to 8ohms? Which drivers?
Any other ideas on how to get it to 8 ohms?
Anyone have a 2460d/neo in 9.5/10 condition at 8 ohms that they want to swap for a 4 ohm?
--Kevin |
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07-13-2010, 04:42 PM
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07-13-2010, 04:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chicago 'burbs, IL | | | My guess as to why...he'd like to run two cabs with a total of 4 ohms rather than one.
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07-13-2010, 04:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver | | | I would suspect he's probably trying to add an extension cab to the set-up while retaining the "modular" aspect of his rig. +1 to trading towards what you need.
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07-13-2010, 04:52 PM
| | | | You'll need to find either a pair of 4Ω speakers to wire in series or a pair of 16Ω speakers to wire in parallel. Chances of finding any 12"s that aren't 8Ω is slim, chances of finding any that match the specs of what you have are pretty much impossible. Sorry, but your choices are sell it, use it by itself, or buy a 2Ω head.
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07-13-2010, 05:35 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, Ontario, Canada | | | Don't listen to these guys.
Just send me $200.00 in an unmarked brown envelope, and I'll tell you how to suck the extra ohms out of the cabinet with a big needle.
Just like the pros do... | 
07-13-2010, 05:54 PM
| | | Put a 4 ohm resistor in series with it Quote:
Originally Posted by tiz_1 I have a Dr Bass 2460D cab I bought last year new. Please spare me the DR Bass drama and issues. I love the cab. Lucky I got it and I doubt I can get help from Dr Bass. Let's move on.
It turned out to be 4 ohms when it was supposed to be 8 ohms. Can I change the existing 12" neo drivers and get it to 8ohms? Which drivers?
Any other ideas on how to get it to 8 ohms?
Anyone have a 2460d/neo in 9.5/10 condition at 8 ohms that they want to swap for a 4 ohm?
--Kevin | | 
07-13-2010, 06:02 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Grass Valley, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigjohn Put a 4 ohm resistor in series with it  | A big old 500 Watt resistor bolted to a heatsink with a fan blowing on it.  | 
07-13-2010, 07:23 PM
| | | Bingo!
8 ohms and double the power handing! Quote:
Originally Posted by Bofee A big old 500 Watt resistor bolted to a heatsink with a fan blowing on it.  | | 
07-13-2010, 07:44 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada | | | Just get the speakers reconed
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07-13-2010, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by murphy Just get the speakers reconed | That does not fix the crossover problem though
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07-14-2010, 06:54 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milford, CT | | Ok - Rimshot and Alex1984 get the reading-between-the-lines prize. Thanks all for the thoughts and random wild-a**-guesses  .
Another option would be to find a 4ohm replacement for the 112lf (8 ohms now) and not run the amp bridged (run L+R full range or bi-amped). I ran it in bi-amp mode last night and it was fine, and surprisingly not much cooler. Thank doG for the Carvin bx1200's flexibility.
Like I said, I never noticed until I read the sticker and the rig has never presented a problem and gets lots of praise from audience and fellow players.
Are there any suitable 4ohm replacements for the 8ohm eminence 3012lf kappalite neo?
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07-14-2010, 08:41 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bass_Pounder That does not fix the crossover problem though | I had no problem with the crossover when I have had it done
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07-14-2010, 08:55 PM
| | Registered User Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Hampshire | | Quote:
Originally Posted by murphy I had no problem with the crossover when I have had it done | Then it did not have a crossover, which rolls off the highs in the woofers and rolls off the lows in the tweeter. It must have had only a high pass filter on the tweeter. A true crossover will be AFU with the wrong impedance load. | 
07-15-2010, 11:40 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigjohn Bingo!
8 ohms and double the power handing!  | And half the audio output!
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07-15-2010, 11:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brookfield, CT | | Quote:
Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice Then it did not have a crossover, which rolls off the highs in the woofers and rolls off the lows in the tweeter. It must have had only a high pass filter on the tweeter. A true crossover will be AFU with the wrong impedance load. | +1, big difference. Lots and lots of cabs have simple high-pass filters, such as practically every two way cab on the market. | 
07-15-2010, 01:40 PM
|  | Registered Bass Offender | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Cambria, CA (Central Coast) | | Quote:
Originally Posted by tiz_1 Like I said, I never noticed until I read the sticker and the rig has never presented a problem and gets lots of praise from audience and fellow players. | So you're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
Put a piece of tape over the sticker and move on.
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