I dont get the point of a sansamp...

[eupharies]

Title said it all really... yet im still contemplating getting one..haha

Well you Eq your amp, you Eq your bass... so what is the need for a sansamp... i dont get it...

Someone explain pleaseee

Is there something a sansamp can do that my rig cannot?

[RickenBoogie]

Well, if you have to ask.......

[eupharies]

yep! ive been reading about them.. it makes no sense to me.. i need it in idiot terms lol

[will33]

I don't get it either, they seem to suck tone/make mud to me, but, a couple uses are....

1. Use it either in place of or in addition to the pre on a non-ampeg amp to try and make it sound more like an ampeg.

2. As a preamp in front of a regular poweramp, again to get ampeg-like tone from something that isn't an ampeg.

3. Use it as a preamp to send a signal to the mixing desk at a full PA supported gig, again to get some ampeg-like sound into the PA, which again, isn't an ampeg.



Basically, try to make anything that isn't an ampeg, sound more like an ampeg.

[Baird6869]

Play through an Ampeg B2-RE with no effects then try running thru a Sansamp.

Made my crappy B2-RE sound great.

The RBI is a great preamp IME

[famousbirds]

There's a lot more to EQ than just what your typical 3/4 knob amp EQ can accomplish.

Some Sansamps have built-in EQ curve that gives a signature "color". Not the kind of thing you can easily reproduce with just a few knobs.

Some do parametric EQ. Whole other thing.

Some add grit/distortion, and have a whole gain structure that is unlike most dirt pedals.

Some do cabinet modeling. So there's that.

Some are designed to be DIs, so you can send an amp-like signal to the board without having to run through your amp. That's why they're called Sans-Amp.

But - if you don't know what they do, why are you getting one? Money burning a whole in your pocket?

[eupharies]

mmm i see, so the alternative is just to buy an ampeg...

Ok so i have a GK 700 RB II.. what could a sansamp do for me?

[meRTKendrew]

the eq on your rig is not the be all and end all. EQ is not there as a magic wand that can make anything sound like anything else. Sansamps are made to sound like you are using a big tube amp, most of them emulate ampeg sounds. And while you could EQ in a general curve, you can't EQ in the weight, or the fatness, or the grind in each note. Also, they often provide a way to get the same sound out of whatever rig is provided, and out of FOH.


-RTK

[eupharies]

Well im interested in new gear!

[meRTKendrew]

Originally Posted by eupharies

mmm i see, so the alternative is just to buy an ampeg...

Ok so i have a GK 700 RB II.. what could a sansamp do for me?

Do you like Ampeg bass amps? Do you like Ampeg SVT's? Do you want to pay for one? or carry one around? Or would you rather buy a sansamp to get you close enough?



-RTK

[johnk_10]

it depends on which sansamp that you're talking about. the RPM and RBI's are rackmount preamps that are usually used with a poweramp to make a complete head unit. the only difference is that it's modular. the sansamp VT pedal is more of a 'tone pedal' that can be used to alter the 'voice of a an existing amp or can be used as a preamp or as a distortion pedal.

[eupharies]

nope im poor mmm i see so basically a sansamp gives you a tube sound... ive never played through an all tube amp so i dont know how this sounds but i shall assume its pretty awesome....

So in effect.. say i had just an ashdown mag 300 ( im in the uk) i could make this sound awesome with the use of a sansamp...?

[eupharies]

was looking at the the RBI and BDD

[pbassnut]

Originally Posted by Baird6869

Play through an Ampeg B2-RE with no effects then try running thru a Sansamp.

Made my crappy B2-RE sound great.

The RBI is a great preamp IME

I have the same two pieces of gear. Do you bypass the preamp section of your B2-RE by patching the RBI through the poweramp in jack, run the RBI through the effects loop of the B2-RE or do you take the RBI output into the B2-RE preamp section?

[will33]

Originally Posted by eupharies

mmm i see, so the alternative is just to buy an ampeg...

Ok so i have a GK 700 RB II.. what could a sansamp do for me?

Try to make it sound more like an ampeg. If you like the ampeg sound, why not just buy an ampeg amp and be done with it?

[eupharies]

I dont know the ampeg sound... thing is ive been reading about them, and alot of people use them....

Just been looking at the VT deluxe... is this slight different to the others i mentioned?

[will33]

Originally Posted by eupharies

nope im poor mmm i see so basically a sansamp gives you a tube sound... ive never played through an all tube amp so i dont know how this sounds

Then you're really missing out.....some sansamps can fake it pretty good, bit it ain't nuttin' like the real thing.

[eupharies]

haha this is true! when i have $2000 spare ill get a nice ampeg!

I could get the PF500 haha

[Vandy]

DI units (I favor the Eden WTDI) allow you to NOT carry an amp (Ampeg, or whatever) to a studio, or any small gig that you want a "controlled sound". Some DI's also allow both a clean & "wet" signal to be sent to a FoH mixing board, while you use your amp/cab choice as an on-stage monitor.
The aspect of "altering" the voice of your existing amp/cab choice is merely an optional benefit of putting said preamp pedal in your effects chain . . .

[MontanaBassDude]

I paid a lot for a SansAmp and I don't know why. I just sold that SansAmp - someone paid a lot, and I still don't know why.

Originally Posted by Baird6869

Play through an Ampeg B2-RE with no effects then try running thru a Sansamp.

Made my crappy B2-RE sound great.

The RBI is a great preamp IME

Of course, unplugging a B2RE makes it sound pretty good, too.