I love my Berg. NV412. What should I get for a lightweight rig?

BiigM · #1 04-05-2011, 01:55 AM

Hi guys.

Well the title kind of says it all but I'll expand a bit.

My amps are DB750, VTBP-201S or Kern/CA9, Streamliner 900.

I really like the NV412 for all these amps, but I'd like something a bit easier to carry, for some of my gigs. I wouldn't mind it being a bit more modern, but not much. I'm not into a very modern sizzling top end, but I do like a a big fat bottom end.

Bring all you good suggestions :-)

Thx

lookiel · #2 04-05-2011, 02:25 AM

Off the top of my head I'd say AE212.
I replaced my NV610 with it, not the same but you can EQ it reasonably close. Won't get the sealed cab thing going but pretty punchy.
If you want even smaller maybe the HS210.

Stumbo · #3 04-05-2011, 02:33 AM

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BiigM · #4 04-05-2011, 02:33 AM

It's not that I need it to be very small. Just something light.
And it's needs to be pretty loud too. I've never been a big fan of 2x10 cabs. I have an aggie gs210, and on it's own it's way to midrangy for me.

What kind of fullness does the ae410 have compared to the NV412.

And what about other brands. Accugroove, Genz, Bagend or something else?

Stumbo · #5 04-05-2011, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BiigM

Just something light.

Do you have a maximum weight you're willing to carry/move?

BiigM · #6 04-05-2011, 02:52 AM

Not really. But around the weight of the AE410 i think.
That's around half the weight of my NV412. I think that difference would be enough to make me pick the lightweight cab, for some of the gigs.

Oh yeah. I'm not 100% on this, but a single cab solution would probably be nice.

rodl2005 · #7 04-05-2011, 03:21 AM

Hard to go past the AE212 IMO. I've a NV215 & I'm digging the AE212... turn OFF the horn & ur in the NV field... at the same waterhole at least!

kevmoga · #8 04-05-2011, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lookiel

Off the top of my head I'd say AE212.

+1. Worked for me, I may even move my NV412 on down the line to someone who could get more use out of such a big cab. Also, I saw a thread in here where someone used the Fdeck high pass filter to roll off some of the low frequency on the AE212 - they compared it favorably to a sealed cab sound.

BiigM · #9 04-05-2011, 05:45 AM

It's probably been covered elsewhere, but how would the ae410 compare to the ae212? Less low end, more volume?

And how about other brands?

lomo · #10 04-05-2011, 07:15 AM

I'll say it: fEarful or nEarful.

tombowlus · #11 04-05-2011, 07:16 AM

I would definitely check out a fEARful 12/6 or 15/6.

Tom P · #12 04-05-2011, 07:27 AM

Coughdrops · #13 04-05-2011, 08:03 AM

I have an NV610 and have had similar thoughts about getting a smaller version of the same vibe. I'm thinking of maybe picking up two of the Ampeg 210AVs. Very small and portable - though obviously two cabs.

Also, given that the AE line is on the outs, maybe Berg will have a new offering more to your ideal in the near future

BiigM · #14 04-05-2011, 09:17 AM

I wasn't aware of the fact that the ae Line is brug cancelled. I thought it was the HS.

I'll read up on the fearful. But I'm not sure it's easy to get hold on one in denmark (Europe).

tombowlus · #15 04-05-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BiigM

I wasn't aware of the fact that the ae Line is brug cancelled. I thought it was the HS.

Actually, they have both been discontinued (the AE line and the HS line), but we may see the HS line come back. It was discontinued in part due to the number of players buying the AE cabs over the HS. But the AE's are being discontinued because of the increasing cost of neodymium. So this may open the door to the HS line coming back into prominence.

At any rate, both cancellations were relatively recent, so there may be some of each line still available for a while.

Tom.

Morning Beer · #16 04-05-2011, 09:30 AM

My local shop came into a demo piece of a sealed Ashdown neo 2x12, no horn/tweeter. The shop owner told me it was to go along with their new tube heads. Sounds real good, does the vintage thing very well. Never played the berg, but would guess there in the same league. I have a avatar TB that is fantastic if your looking to save a buck, very different from the NV though.

BiigM · #17 04-05-2011, 09:35 AM

If neodymium is too costly, Will this mean no more lightway cabs or at least very expensive ones?

tombowlus · #18 04-05-2011, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BiigM

If neodymium is too costly, Will this mean no more lightway cabs or at least very expensive ones?

That is the current working theory...

dee rob · #19 04-05-2011, 10:40 AM

I use a Reeves 4x10, which is a sealed neo loaded cab, when I don't feel like moving my NV 610. It weighs in at about 65 pounds. I'm very happy with the tone of the Reeves.

dee

bucephylus · #20 04-05-2011, 10:44 AM

This is a good topic. I am also very set on my NV610; and, in spite of a bunch of money spent, not so impressed with the smaller cabs.

My current thoughts are: in the 55 pound range, I like the SWR Miller Golight 410. In the 30+ pound range I like the Audiokinesis cabs.

I'm currently using Schroeders for the smaller schlepps. They're ok, even pretty amazing; but opposite end of the tonal universe.