I need some help modifying a TL-606 plan

[hdracer]

I want to build a 2-15 cab using two TL-606 cabs stacked with Eminence Kappalite 3015's. I would like to make it a kick back style to make it easier to move around. I think putting the ports in the center would make the tuning easier. I have WinISD but it does not help with figuring how much taller or wider I have to make the box to make up for the angled backs. I think I have read every thread I could find on TL-606 builds, and found a few 2-15's but haven't seen a kick back style. Anyone have some advice?

That's my recommendation. Instead of dividing it perfectly in half for the 2x15 "D" (like I did), Keep the whole "port area." That only adds a little to the "width," and you can offset that addition with the angled lower back, making it just deep enough to mount your casters. Or, you could put the ports at the bottom, a bit like what Fender/Sunn did a few years go, and make the whole cabinet narrower...

It's my experience that that a cabinet can take about a 5-10% variation in "size of box" without altering the sonic results noticeably.

With the "port cover" installed ("drop-down" mode), you can measure the ports, and transfer those measurements to the position you wish (i.e., between the top and bottom speakers). E-V had done this years ago for some of their 2x15 cabinets they sold to movie theaters as subs... You might even find some photos of these cabs on their site... I believe they are exactly half of the Q cabs.

Here's the link for all of the TL plans:

http://archives.telex.com/archives/EV/Builders%20Plans/

Here's my TL cabs:



Front, L-R: TL606D, TL806 over TL606, TL806D

[hdracer]

Thanks, I have that plan and trying to work with it. I like how you did your 215. That doesn't look like it is to much hassle to move around. I just sold my SWR 610. That cab was so easy to move around with the kick back

[Alex1984]

Originally Posted by tifftunes

That's my recommendation. Instead of dividing it perfectly in half for the 2x15 "D" (like I did), Keep the whole "port area." That only adds a little to the "width," and you can offset that addition with the angled lower back, making it just deep enough to mount your casters. Or, you could put the ports at the bottom, a bit like what Fender/Sunn did a few years go, and make the whole cabinet narrower...

It's my experience that that a cabinet can take about a 5-10% variation in "size of box" without altering the sonic results noticeably.

With the "port cover" installed ("drop-down" mode), you can measure the ports, and transfer those measurements to the position you wish (i.e., between the top and bottom speakers). E-V had done this years ago for some of their 2x15 cabinets they sold to movie theaters as subs... You might even find some photos of these cabs on their site... I believe they are exactly half of the Q cabs.

Here's the link for all of the TL plans:

http://archives.telex.com/archives/EV/Builders%20Plans/

Here's my TL cabs:



Front, L-R: TL606D, TL806 over TL606, TL806D

Wow, those cabs are beautiful, excellent craftsmanship. On top of that, you've made them road-ready and then some!!!

Originally Posted by hdracer

Thanks, I have that plan and trying to work with it. I like how you did your 215. That doesn't look like it is to much hassle to move around. I just sold my SWR 610. That cab was so easy to move around with the kick back

It is easy to move for a "biggie," with the removable casters. Plus there are handles on all 4 sides. It's also noticeably lighter than most other "brand-name" cabs of similar size. Especially with the eminence Basslite, DeltaLite II, or KappaLite drivers.

I do like the "kick back" idea. If I were to build this cab again, that would be the ONLY change I'd make. My experiences hauling this cab in and out of my wagon, band trucks and venues, especially venues with stairs, the tilt back cab would have made it a lot easier.

Good luck with your cabinet. It's still a great bass cabinet, and/or PA sub. Mine still sounds great, and has served me well over the last decade. Though it's not getting much use lately... My aging body is feeling ever haul these days! So the smaller cabs are getting more of a workout!

Originally Posted by Alex1984

Wow, those cabs are beautiful, excellent craftsmanship. On top of that, you've made them road-ready and then some!!!

Funny story, regarding the "Road Ready" Mesa cabs... The main differences between Mesa's and these are the front panel to completely enclose the cab, and "curb weight" - my 2x15 is about 50lbs lighter @ 92lbs.

I went to reliable Hardware to order my grills, and pick up all the hardware and ABS sheets, and mentioned to Gene (wonder if he's still there?) my idea of making these and selling them through Guitar Center... Gene couldn't unequivocally state that Mesa was about to release their Road Ready cabs, but he hinted very strongly that another client appeared to be doing something similar...

Then, when I approached GC, they said ok, but they would require 87 of each model (one for each store nation-wide) before they would advertise and sell them. I couldn't just sell through one store. And being "just me," there was no way I could come up with 87 cabs in a year, let alone 348!

Between the two seemingly insurmountable obstacles, I threw in the towel, and decided I had a really nice set of cabs for myself! And they have all gotten quite a bit of work too!

I just put the KappaLites in the single driver cabs (1x12 & 1x15). As they break in, they sound better and better!! I'm really enjoying them!

[Mo'Phat]

Here's mine - a TL-606 based 2x15 using 3015's. All I changed from the Telex plans were to make the port height 3" instead of 2, and shorten the baffle and baffle supports accordingly.

Sounds flippin' awesome.

My 215 build. TL-606 based, using Eminence Kappalite 3015's.

Ps: there's a link in that thread to my build progress pictures.

[hdracer]

I read that thread. Your photos helped a lot. That is where I came up with the idea of "turning" the two cabs so the port slot's are in the middle like some of the old Peavey 215's and making a kick back. I plan on using your port mod. Do you leave the port cover on still?

Originally Posted by hdracer

I read that thread. Your photos helped a lot. That is where I came up with the idea of "turning" the two cabs so the port slot's are in the middle like some of the old Peavey 215's and making a kick back. I plan on using your port mod. Do you leave the port cover on still?

The Sunn 200S 2x15 cab was the same way - large rectangular "belt-line" port in between the drivers.