I wish i had an Ampeg SVT 610HLF...

[chrismuzz]

...But i don't!

I'm perfectly happy with all aspects of my setup, but I went through this monster of a cabinet last week and was blown away! I love lightweight gear too much though! Is there a lightweight cab that sounds exactly like this? Or is it possible to sound exactly like it without using extra pedals? I heard I can get close using the F1's VLE/VPF knobs. Any help would be awesome! Cheers

[spaz21387]

the berg nv6x10 is probably the lightest 6x10 on the market but the swr is a great choise mine weighs about 115 to 120 pounds.

[chrismuzz]

I do hear alot about Bergs actually! Any love for the Markbass Classic line? Or are they too far away from the Ampeg sound?

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by chrismuzz

I do hear alot about Bergs actually! Any love for the Markbass Classic line? Or are they too far away from the Ampeg sound?

they are for me. they're good cabs, but they've got that usual markbass "heavy upper mids, light bottom" thing going on.

btw, i am not understanding why the 610hlf gets bagged on so much by people on here. the usual complaint i hear is "it doesn't sound as beefy on the bottom as a 410hlf or as tight on the bottom as a 810e." so what? it's still a great sounding cab that falls in between the two.

[georgestrings]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

btw, i am not understanding why the 610hlf gets bagged on so much by people on here.

It's inferior to literally every other 610 on the market... I've played 'em all, and the Ampeg SVT-610HLF is the worst 610 available...


- georgestrings

[WalWarrior]

Got this setup, and it rocks. Personal preference, and everyone is entitled to personal opinion, I think this setup kicks major butt.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by georgestrings

It's inferior to literally every other 610 on the market... I've played 'em all, and the Ampeg SVT-610HLF is the worst 610 available...

can't say i've played them all, but i so disagree with that.

[georgestrings]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

can't say i've played them all, but i so disagree with that.

Well, it does have an Ampeg badge on it, Jimmy - so that's probably good enough for you...

I actually owned one for awhile, and was considering trading it for my Mesa PH610 - since it was lighter, taller, and easier to move than the Mesa... then, I played it in a band setting, and quickly realized how inferior it was to the PH610 and Goliath Sr I had available to me at the time... I really like the SVT-410HLF, and have played many, many great gigs on Ampeg 810s - so it's not like I hate all things Ampeg...


- georgestrings

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by georgestrings

Well, it does have an Ampeg badge on it, Jimmy - so that's probably good enough for you...

yeah, you keep saying that, and yet you forget that i actually don't care for the 410hlf or the b2re. and you also forget when loud was being run by that idiot who pooped all over ampeg's heritage with shoddy qc and a college boy's arrogance, how often i kept calling for ampeg to be sold to a company that cares. instead, they just fired the idiot. good enough for me. but i've never given any amp company a free pass. they want my recommendation, they have to earn it.

I actually owned one for awhile, and was considering trading it for my Mesa PH610 - since it was lighter, taller, and easier to move than the Mesa... then, I played it in a band setting, and quickly realized how inferior it was to the PH610 and Goliath Sr I had available to me at the time... I really like the SVT-410HLF, and have played many, many great gigs on Ampeg 810s - so it's not like I hate all things Ampeg...

the difference is when i say i don't like the 410hlf, i say i just don't like it but i respect the quality and your right to like it. when you say you don't like the 610hlf, you say it sucks and anyone who doesn't agree only cares about the logo. certainly you don't think that your tastes should be everyone's tastes...that's so unlike bass players on here.

[BagelBruin]

I really want to play one and A/B it with my Avatar 410

[chrismuzz]

I don't really know what to compare it to. I've always been a 4x10 guy! I just loved the sound I got running my gear through the Ampeg, for me it's the best I've ever sounded. I didn't cut through the mix as well but I guess I could easily fix that with some EQ i hope! I'm not heavily fussed about looks or brand names. Hell, i play through bright yellow speakers at the moment Lightweight cabs would be a huge advantage though, and i'm open to anything with 10" speakers, preferably 4x10 and 2x10 since my car is kinda small!

[paganjack]

My main beef with the 610HLF is it's huge hole in the upper mids. It does try to strike a balance between the 410HLF and the 810E, but it is one piece of gear that I do not miss whatsoever.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by paganjack

My main beef with the 610HLF is it's huge hole in the upper mids. It does try to strike a balance between the 410HLF and the 810E, but it is one piece of gear that I do not miss whatsoever.

hmmm...you know, i've always thought the slm 810e cabs since 2000 were plagued with 10"s with no high end...but the last time i did a gig with a 410hlf, it was a new one, and it was more bright in the woofers and not quite as woofy on the lows as the slm versions. so now with what you're saying, that makes me wonder if this wasn't a problem that plagued all ampeg cabs back then and not just the 810e. wouldn't happen to know the years of the 610hlf's you've played, would you? i just played a new one and didn't really notice for holes in the upper mids, but it sounded pretty full up there to me.

[joeydavidson]

I miss mine, it sounded nice with my Orange head & every Ampeg head I tried with it, but I sold it to pay for the Orange :/

[chrismuzz]

Are there no lightweight cabinets that sound identical to the 610HLF? Help a brother out before he destroys his back!

[paganjack]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

hmmm...you know, i've always thought the slm 810e cabs since 2000 were plagued with 10"s with no high end...but the last time i did a gig with a 410hlf, it was a new one, and it was more bright in the woofers and not quite as woofy on the lows as the slm versions. so now with what you're saying, that makes me wonder if this wasn't a problem that plagued all ampeg cabs back then and not just the 810e. wouldn't happen to know the years of the 610hlf's you've played, would you? i just played a new one and didn't really notice for holes in the upper mids, but it sounded pretty full up there to me.

I don't know the exact year it was made, although I do recall is was US-made/ SLM-era model. I disconnected the tweeter on mine, and that did smooth out the top end (I really dislike tweeters) but it was still pretty dark sounding. I'd give the new ones the benefit of the doubt; Ampeg seems to be back on the upswing lately.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by paganjack

I don't know the exact year it was made, although I do recall is was US-made/ SLM-era model. I disconnected the tweeter on mine, and that did smooth out the top end (I really dislike tweeters) but it was still pretty dark sounding. I'd give the new ones the benefit of the doubt; Ampeg seems to be back on the upswing lately.

ya, i think i may be right about my theory then.

[knappymer]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

i am not understanding why the 610hlf gets bagged on so much by people on here. the usual complaint i hear is "it doesn't sound as beefy on the bottom as a 410hlf or as tight on the bottom as a 810e." so what? it's still a great sounding cab that falls in between the two.

+1

The 610HLF is planned to be my next cab purchase. Just putting in my 2bits but I feel this cab does get a worse rap than it's due.

[BagelBruin]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

ya, i think i may be right about my theory then.

+1

I have a friend who plays professionally with a lot of Christian bands around here. He's tried every kinda cab you imagine, and he has said the same thing about Ampegs from that era.

[semiprohooker]

well after reading this... I tested out a SVT CL w/ a 610hlf last friday and ordered the 810e based on the 610. So do ya'll think i'm gonna wind up with the 810 or because I was expecting a 610ish sound?