Idea For My Next Rig

Govier966 · #1 05-31-2010, 06:55 PM

Hi everyone I am pretty young but I also like the idea of class D power amps and Neo Speakers. My current rig is a GK 400rb that I am borrowing from my uncle and a GK glx 2x10 one of the speakers in the gk may be busted. it occasionally makes a strange sound that leads me to believe the voice coil warped and is rubbing up against something in a funny way. For my next rig this is what I am Considering:
-a Carvin BX 500
-An Avatar B212 (4 ohm)
-An Avatar B112 (8 ohm)
I feel this would be good as all of those products are pretty light in comparison to my current bulky speaker. The Carvin is really portable so I could bring it from home to practice with the 112 at home and the 212 at my drummers. At bigger shows I could use both. Bass Player Mag claims there 212 is louder than there 410 does this mean i could get the volume of an 6x10 through this rig? one thing i worry about is price. As i said Im pretty young im in high school. One thing thats a problem with this rig is these products don't seem to go used much. Also both of these companies are internet based, everyone seems to love there products but I prefer to try things out. Tell me if this sounds like a good rig.

honestjohnny · #2 05-31-2010, 07:31 PM

Get 2 or 3 8 ohm 112's instead of a 112 and 212. That's what I'd do; more versatility that way. Or 2 8 ohm 210's. Or get LDS or someone to make you a couple of 115's or 112's using Kappalite 3015's or 3012's. Cheers!

1n3 · #3 06-01-2010, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by honestjohnny

Get 2 or 3 8 ohm 112's instead of a 112 and 212. That's what I'd do; more versatility that way.

I don't see much difference between the OP's idea and yours. He can gig one, two, or three 12s. The 212 will be a bit more of a lug than a 112, but he's talking neos, and he's young. And there's the convenience and cost savings of one cab vs. two.

Govier966: I think you've got a good plan. You'll have to engage the 2 ohm switch on your amp if you run both speakers, since your nominal load will be 2.7 ohms.

BassmanPaul · #4 06-01-2010, 11:37 AM

You have your impedances right. Each twelve will get around the same power. You will have to engage the 2Ω switch as 1n3 said.

Paul

Govier966 · #5 06-01-2010, 04:04 PM

Okay glad to know im right with the loads, i was really confused by impedance until i got the formula. Now I know both of these brands have great reputations on both TB and many other sites for sounding great being durable and keeping the price low. The thing i worry about is trying them out. Does anyone know stores in NY that would have these brands?

Govier966 · #6 06-02-2010, 06:16 PM

mntngrown · #7 06-02-2010, 07:01 PM

I have the 4 ohm neo 2x12 and 8 ohm neo 1x12 cab on top of it at our rehearsal space and they go plenty loud. They could handle most medium size clubs plus. I gig with something else but we are talkin a lot more money new than Avatar. They used to list scratch and dent new stuff on E-bay and their website, so look into that. My 1x12 was a scratch and dent off their website. Had to look pretty hard to find the defect but saved some bucks. Search Avatar on e-bay and look for Dave as the seller. That's factory new with a little Oops ding in it for less dollars. I can't speak to the Carvin head cause I sent the one I bought when they 1st came out back for a refund due to problems you can research here on Talkbass. I presume they have resolved them. I still resent the fact I had to pay return shipping when they continued shipping out defective product weeks after being alerted to problems.
They did not send me a return shipping label or refund my shipping. I am a big fan of another amp company for life after being treated the direct opposite. Not a post bashing Carvin though but just telling you those cab choices work fine for me and how to get em cheaper.

Stumbo · #8 06-02-2010, 07:05 PM

I did a few calculations and came up with:
Carvin BX 500 = $399

Avatar 2x12: $389+$48(ship)=$437
Avatar 1x12 $289+$35(ship)=$324
Total Cabs: $761

Grand Total: $399+$761=$1,160

My suggestion is to look into getting one excellent sounding cab that will take care of your sound/volume. Here's an alternative: One 4 ohm Low Down Sound (LDS) 15/6 or 1212/6 and a ampless/speakerless bass trainer for home use. Check out the following link for some ideas: Bass trainers/practice w/o amps

From what I've seen on the TB threads, the LDS cabs are very well designed and will take of pretty much any venue you'll play w/o PA support. Here's a link to the TB LDS thread where you can see a lot of cool sounding cabs: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showth...17#post8421217

Here's a link to very nice LDS rig: Low Down Sound Club: V2

GlennPagano · #9 06-02-2010, 07:10 PM

I have a bx500 and a 4ohm 212 and it sounds amazing. It is not as punchy as a 410 but is very smooth. It sounds amazing when you hook up the 4 ohm 212 and a 4ohm 410. I would go with the bx500 and 212.

Govier966 · #10 06-05-2010, 11:30 AM

sounds pretty good stumbo your right this rig is going to be pretty expensive i think i may sell my practice amp for some cash and start out with only the 2x12 as Im going to get an interface so i can practice via headphones.

BassmanPaul · #11 06-05-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Govier966

Im going to get an interface so i can practice via headphones.

If you know how to solder you can make one of these things for yourself. Cost not too much over $15.

Paul

Govier966 · #12 06-05-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BassmanPaul

If you know how to solder you can make one of these things for yourself. Cost not too much over $15.

Paul

yeah i may have worded that wrong, im not just getting an interface for headphone practice, im getting it so i can record with my band and by myself.