I'm Scared ...

Davebass · #1 03-17-2011, 04:26 PM

I'm running a Little Mark II Head into a Epifini 2x10 cab. Its 4 Ohms.

Little Mark II is outputting 500 watts and the cab is 400W. I know that as long as I am using under 4/5 of the total LMII power I will be alright but I'm just worried about the stress on the 2x10 speakers.

I had a GK rig before this and was never concerned however as this rig is smaller I just want to be safe more than sorry.

Can anyone tell me what I need to listen for when I crank it for the first time? am I worrying over nothing? Has anyone had bad experiences with rigs of this size?

Cheers,
Dave

jacostilllives · #2 03-17-2011, 04:38 PM

Hah when you turn the LMII up to 3/10 through a 4ohm cab it will blow you away.

You'll be ok because you will never turn it up to 8.. Trust me it's LOUD.

philtoler · #3 03-17-2011, 04:45 PM

The first thing you might hear is silence. I would worry more about the amp power supply failing if you use it at gig levels of volume on a regular basis. it's just not worth the risk of damaging such a great little rig.

okcrum · #4 03-17-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by philtoler

The first thing you might hear is silence. I would worry more about the amp power supply failing if you use it at gig levels of volume on a regular basis. it's just not worth the risk of damaging such a great little rig.

Huh?

ia02 · #5 03-17-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by okcrum

Huh?

+1

GrowlerBox · #6 03-17-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Davebass

Can anyone tell me what I need to listen for when I crank it for the first time? am I worrying over nothing? Has anyone had bad experiences with rigs of this size?

Cheers,
Dave

The speakers will start to distort, commonly known as "farting", as they reach their maximum excursion. Keep the bass end of your EQ under control, watch the volume, and you should be OK. You'll want to keep the head below half its output -- not sure of the taper on this head, so I don't know where that occurs on the dial. KJung will know for sure, and if you're lucky, he'll chime in.

The only real problem with a rig of this size, is that you've got nowhere to go if you do need to be louder -- you'll need more speakers for that, and you can't do that with this setup. However, if you've got PA support and your bandmates can keep it under control a bit, you should be fine in many settings.

murphy · #7 03-17-2011, 06:34 PM

I am sure you will be fine and it will sound great.

But, I wouldn't use just a 210 for a band situation....you will end up wrecking the speakers

Downunderwonder · #8 03-17-2011, 07:57 PM

Depends on the band situation. 400W is a lot more than I gig with and it's always enough. But I don't play thrash metal with no PA to 400 people. Horses for courses.

Pilgrim · #9 03-17-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by philtoler

The first thing you might hear is silence. I would worry more about the amp power supply failing if you use it at gig levels of volume on a regular basis. it's just not worth the risk of damaging such a great little rig.

Not a single accurate word was found in this post. ^^^

Keep the volume sane and you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

Downunderwonder · #10 03-17-2011, 09:07 PM

Make sure it always has its back to the wall and either right in the corner or well away for best bottom end. Save you from overdriving the low frequencies and all will be well.

kramj · #11 03-17-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilgrim

Not a single accurate word was found in this post. ^^^

Keep the volume sane and you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

I thought the point of this inaccurate post was that he is saying a 210 won't cut it at gig levels, therefore the volume will have to be maxed which risks damaging the amp?

Downunderwonder · #12 03-17-2011, 10:56 PM

Power rating means next to nothing. It's the overexcursion trying to make lots of sub frequencies that kills. Read Jimmy's rant about manfacturer cab ratings. Not saying Epifany is guilty but the whole idea of a cab being able to take some average RMS amount of power is bogus.

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Originally Posted by GrowlerBox

The speakers will start to distort, commonly known as "farting", as they reach their maximum excursion. Keep the bass end of your EQ under control, watch the volume, and you should be OK.

this was the right answer.

Munjibunga · #13 03-17-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilgrim

Not a single accurate word was found in this post. ^^^

Keep the volume sane and you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

Exactly. If it starts to fart, turn it down. I run my Shuttle 9.0 (900 watts) into my Bergantino AE212 (600 watts) all the time. No problem.

Davebass · #14 03-18-2011, 02:16 AM

My mind is being rested!

I play in a blues band (It's not the perfect rig for that but I do a lot more studio based work which this rig is great for) with a left hand happy keyboard player. I usually have to battle for space with him.

I'm looking at the gig calendar and I've only highlighted a few rooms that might be a problem, but as was pointed out, there will be good PA support.

First gig with it is next friday (at one of my highlighted venues). All will become clear then!

I will report back with my experiences!

EpiRipper · #15 03-18-2011, 03:16 AM

I run a Hartke LH1000 (1100 watts bridged) into 2 400 watt cabs on a regular basis. So far, so good. The volume knob on that puppy never goes beyond 3 cause it makes my ears bleed!