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08-30-2010, 12:24 PM
| | | | im sorry for the noob ? advise plz
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going up against 100w marshall full-stack on 10
how much power do i need
will be going with a power amp prob
dont care about weight just need vol
will just find a cheap used cab and put new speakers in it - this was quickly advised against thanks
thanks for any help
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08-30-2010, 12:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2010 Location: In Space | | ummmm.....  you probably should tell the guitard to turn down.
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08-30-2010, 12:30 PM
|  | passionate hack | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Malone, NY/ Montreal, Quebec | | | Speaker area is more important than power. There are many variables, but IMO an 810 and 750 watts SS or 300 watts all-tube will do, goosing the mids. Having said that, I'd just make the guitard see reason and turn down (best of luck with that).
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08-30-2010, 12:31 PM
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08-30-2010, 12:33 PM
|  | Bartle doo? | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Missing Mountains | | | Twice his power if you both insisit on playing at insane volume. If he's a 100 watt, you should be 200 bare minimum. More is ideal. You tone carries through walls, but can't compete with his in the room. To compensate, you need twice the power to mix. I would say shoot from something in the 350 range to give you a little room on the dial.
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08-30-2010, 12:33 PM
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08-30-2010, 12:37 PM
| | | | yea, me and my brother have played pro/semi for about 12yr now we have played togeather off and on. anyway he's good and his tone is on 10. the drummer is a pro tech so he's already def. i just need to catch up. fwiw vol at our studio has no limit.
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08-30-2010, 12:39 PM
| | | | wow only 300 watts, i thought i was looking at around 1000 for sure. | 
08-30-2010, 12:42 PM
| | | | A good rule of thumb is to have twice the watts as the guitard, however, if said guitard insists on playing at full throttle, either tell the fool to turn it down a notch or go with 350-500 watts and turn your amp towards him. And you only need 1000 watts if your practicing in Wembly Stadium. | 
08-30-2010, 12:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2010 Location: Maryland | | | I couldn't take more than a 4 in a large room (on a 75watt SS).
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08-30-2010, 12:46 PM
|  | Total Hyper-Elite Member | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Plays_For_Dog Twice his power if you both insisit on playing at insane volume. If he's a 100 watt, you should be 200 bare minimum. More is ideal. You tone carries through walls, but can't compete with his in the room. To compensate, you need twice the power to mix. I would say shoot from something in the 350 range to give you a little room on the dial. | No. For a 100-watt Marshall cranked, you'll need at least 1,000 watts and a high-quality 810 or two 410s. Seriously. It's difficult to compete with that level of sound. At least he doesn't have it at 11.
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08-30-2010, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackIrish wow only 300 watts, i thought i was looking at around 1000 for sure. | You were right. 300 watts won't even come close.
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08-30-2010, 12:47 PM
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08-30-2010, 12:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Oregon | | cheap speakers, huge amp, sounds like a plan  | 
08-30-2010, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga No. For a 100-watt Marshall cranked, you'll need at least 1,000 watts and a high-quality 810 or two 410s. Seriously. It's difficult to compete with that level of sound. At least he doesn't have it at 11. | that's kinda what i thought. iv only played bass for one band for about 1 1/2yr. 2 guitar players and i had a ampeg rackmount something (9yr ago) pushing around 1000 watt into a 6x10 and was clipping that often. | 
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08-30-2010, 05:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dallas, TX | | | +1 bass doesn't need twice the power of a guitar, but more like 5-10x. But also +1 to the other mention, speakers are more important than watts. By a lot. An 8x10 would be needed in this particular case.
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08-30-2010, 08:21 PM
| | | | does power amp brand matter if im just going for vol right now | 
08-30-2010, 08:28 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SF | | | 100 watt marshall cranked? i would need some serious dough to put up with that on a regular basis. plus 2 svt's, each with its own fridge! and some earplugs...
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