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DieselKTM 01-01-2013 08:38 AM

Impeadence of extension cabinet
 
I need an extension cabinet for my Eden Metro (2X10 @ 8 Ohms).
Should I get a 4X10 @ 8 Ohm or 4X10 @ 4 Ohms. Id like to keep the speaker loads even?? Help!:confused:

Bass_Pounder 01-01-2013 08:41 AM

Unless your amp is 2 ohm stable - none of the above

Zooberwerx 01-01-2013 08:59 AM

An 8 ohm ext. cabinet, when figured in with the combo's internal speaker 8 ohm rating, will result in a 4 ohm load. Check the manual for addt'l details.

http://www.eden-electronics.com/info...0XLTMetro2.pdf

Personally, I'd go with a matching 2 X 10....probably sound great and look kickin' on stage.

Riis

BassmanPaul 01-01-2013 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zooberwerx (Post 13652191)
Personally, I'd go with a matching 2 X 10....probably sound great and look kickin' on stage.

Riis

+1 An 8Ω 4x10 will be constantly limited by the 2x10 internal load. A 4Ω cabinet will fall below 4Ω the probable minimum for your amp.

Got2SadowskyNYC 01-01-2013 09:41 AM

Lets say the amp WAS 2 ohm stable. You could use an 8ohm and a 4ohm cab for a total ohm load of about 3. Although the mismatch shouldn't hurt the amp, it will make the 2 cabs sound different. One would be stronger than the other.

This why I never mix ohm ratings even if the amp can do it.

Bass_Pounder 01-01-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got2SadowskyNYC (Post 13652386)
Lets say the amp WAS 2 ohm stable. You could use an 8ohm and a 4ohm cab for a total ohm load of about 3. Although the mismatch shouldn't hurt the amp, it will make the 2 cabs sound different. One would be stronger than the other.

This why I never mix ohm ratings even if the amp can do it.

It does have it's place though, so understanding is the key.

When mixing a 2X10 and a 4X10, or mixing a 2X15 with a 1X15 you MUST use the impedance mismatch to your favor so that each individual speaker throughout your mix of cabs recieves the same amount of power.

LowEZ 01-01-2013 10:00 AM

The Eden Metro DC210XLT combo is 2 ohm stable, so I would go for either a 4 ohm D410XLT or an 8 ohm D210XLT cab depending on need.

Zooberwerx 01-01-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowEZ (Post 13652491)
The Eden Metro DC210XLT combo is 2 ohm stable, so I would go for either a 4 ohm D410XLT or an 8 ohm D210XLT cab depending on need.

Whoaaa....that's the one! This would be perfect: use the Metro combo solo for the smaller venues...throw the 2 X 10 ext. cab in the car for the bigger rooms. You've got everything covered with what is feasibly a 500+ watt 4 X 10 rig.

Riis

LowEZ 01-01-2013 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zooberwerx (Post 13652518)
Whoaaa....that's the one! This would be perfect: use the Metro combo solo for the smaller venues...throw the 2 X 10 ext. cab in the car for the bigger rooms. You've got everything covered with what is feasibly a 500+ watt 4 X 10 rig.

Riis

I've never experienced it personally, but I've read many positive reviews of running a D210XLT together with a D210XST. Being that the combo is an XLT, you may also want to consider an 8 ohm D210XST as an extension cab. The XST is a bit smaller and easier to handle than the XLT, yet it supposedly goes deeper.

DieselKTM 01-06-2013 01:20 PM

Extension impedance confusion
 
Ok.... So a 4X10 4 ohm can will even power output to each speaker?
:hmm:

RickenBoogie 01-06-2013 01:25 PM

Yes, a 4 ohm 410 paired with your 8 ohm 210 combo will be a 2.6 ohm load on the amp, and all 6 spkrs will get even power. So long as the amp truly is stable down to 2 ohms, this would be the biggest "bang for the buck" combination, although an 8 ohm 2x10 ext cab would leave the amp running @ 4 ohms, and be less stress (heat) on the amp.

Bmorefoozler 01-06-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickenBoogie (Post 13677394)
Yes, a 4 ohm 410 paired with your 8 ohm 210 combo will be a 2.6 ohm load on the amp, and all 6 spkrs will get even power. So long as the amp truly is stable down to 2 ohms, this would be the biggest "bang for the buck" combination, although an 8 ohm 2x10 ext cab would leave the amp running @ 4 ohms, and be less stress (heat) on the amp.

If you've got the coin and space do both. Then you can have everything from a 2x10-8x10 and be completely scalable for your situation and provide even power distribution.

DieselKTM 01-06-2013 06:04 PM

Thanks guys....

Thinking 410 @ 4.
I've used my 800 rb for 20 years with various cabs. ( the same head). I bought the metro for small gigs. I just love the tone... 2 10s just wont push enough air for most of my gigs... Hope the old GK will forgive me.

I appreciate all your badly needed input.

Best regards!


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