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Old 01-01-2013, 08:38 AM
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Impeadence of extension cabinet

I need an extension cabinet for my Eden Metro (2X10 @ 8 Ohms).
Should I get a 4X10 @ 8 Ohm or 4X10 @ 4 Ohms. Id like to keep the speaker loads even?? Help!
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Unless your amp is 2 ohm stable - none of the above
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:59 AM
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An 8 ohm ext. cabinet, when figured in with the combo's internal speaker 8 ohm rating, will result in a 4 ohm load. Check the manual for addt'l details.

http://www.eden-electronics.com/info...0XLTMetro2.pdf

Personally, I'd go with a matching 2 X 10....probably sound great and look kickin' on stage.

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Personally, I'd go with a matching 2 X 10....probably sound great and look kickin' on stage.

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+1 An 8Ω 4x10 will be constantly limited by the 2x10 internal load. A 4Ω cabinet will fall below 4Ω the probable minimum for your amp.
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Lets say the amp WAS 2 ohm stable. You could use an 8ohm and a 4ohm cab for a total ohm load of about 3. Although the mismatch shouldn't hurt the amp, it will make the 2 cabs sound different. One would be stronger than the other.

This why I never mix ohm ratings even if the amp can do it.
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Lets say the amp WAS 2 ohm stable. You could use an 8ohm and a 4ohm cab for a total ohm load of about 3. Although the mismatch shouldn't hurt the amp, it will make the 2 cabs sound different. One would be stronger than the other.

This why I never mix ohm ratings even if the amp can do it.
It does have it's place though, so understanding is the key.

When mixing a 2X10 and a 4X10, or mixing a 2X15 with a 1X15 you MUST use the impedance mismatch to your favor so that each individual speaker throughout your mix of cabs recieves the same amount of power.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:00 AM
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The Eden Metro DC210XLT combo is 2 ohm stable, so I would go for either a 4 ohm D410XLT or an 8 ohm D210XLT cab depending on need.
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The Eden Metro DC210XLT combo is 2 ohm stable, so I would go for either a 4 ohm D410XLT or an 8 ohm D210XLT cab depending on need.
Whoaaa....that's the one! This would be perfect: use the Metro combo solo for the smaller venues...throw the 2 X 10 ext. cab in the car for the bigger rooms. You've got everything covered with what is feasibly a 500+ watt 4 X 10 rig.

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Whoaaa....that's the one! This would be perfect: use the Metro combo solo for the smaller venues...throw the 2 X 10 ext. cab in the car for the bigger rooms. You've got everything covered with what is feasibly a 500+ watt 4 X 10 rig.

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I've never experienced it personally, but I've read many positive reviews of running a D210XLT together with a D210XST. Being that the combo is an XLT, you may also want to consider an 8 ohm D210XST as an extension cab. The XST is a bit smaller and easier to handle than the XLT, yet it supposedly goes deeper.
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:20 PM
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Extension impedance confusion

Ok.... So a 4X10 4 ohm can will even power output to each speaker?
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Yes, a 4 ohm 410 paired with your 8 ohm 210 combo will be a 2.6 ohm load on the amp, and all 6 spkrs will get even power. So long as the amp truly is stable down to 2 ohms, this would be the biggest "bang for the buck" combination, although an 8 ohm 2x10 ext cab would leave the amp running @ 4 ohms, and be less stress (heat) on the amp.
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Yes, a 4 ohm 410 paired with your 8 ohm 210 combo will be a 2.6 ohm load on the amp, and all 6 spkrs will get even power. So long as the amp truly is stable down to 2 ohms, this would be the biggest "bang for the buck" combination, although an 8 ohm 2x10 ext cab would leave the amp running @ 4 ohms, and be less stress (heat) on the amp.
If you've got the coin and space do both. Then you can have everything from a 2x10-8x10 and be completely scalable for your situation and provide even power distribution.
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:04 PM
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Thanks guys....

Thinking 410 @ 4.
I've used my 800 rb for 20 years with various cabs. ( the same head). I bought the metro for small gigs. I just love the tone... 2 10s just wont push enough air for most of my gigs... Hope the old GK will forgive me.

I appreciate all your badly needed input.

Best regards!
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