Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Amps [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 08-03-2010, 06:28 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Singapore
Importance of a good amp?

Sign in to disble this ad
What is the difference between a good and a bad amp. I am buying a brandless amp due to my extremely low budget, and so i want to know what would be different (eg from a peavey or ibanez amplifier.) Is it a very big difference? If so? How so? Thanks!
  #2  
Old 08-03-2010, 06:37 AM
Registered User

Endorsing Artist: Carvin,Modulus, Hotwire & Conklin Basses, Eden Amps
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Nashville,TN
Supporting Member
Like a lot of things, you do get what you pay for. It does depend on what you need. If you're just practicing for a little bit a really small amp (say, a Nemesis N10 or Kustom KB10) will work fine. If you wish to play in a band situation, you'll need more.
A good entry bass amp would be the Behringer-there's a kick-back BXL3000 or BXL450 that will work in most beginning playing situations. As you progress, you can upgrade your gear.
As a reality check, most entry-level amps seem to be coming from China these days, so in general the quality control will be Pacific Rim level. Your entry level no name amp may be about the same.
  #3  
Old 08-03-2010, 06:50 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Most of the tone of your amp comes from the PREAMP section and the Speaker Cab. The power amp section should amplify... If noname amp has a good preamp in it, and if you hang a good set of speakers with a well designed cab on it you should be fine. It is for you to decide if that cab is up to speed or not.

BOB
__________________
"THE ABILITY TO DESTROY A PLANET IS INSIGNIFICANT NEXT TO THE POWER OF THE FORCE."
  #4  
Old 08-03-2010, 07:53 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Singapore
Thanks, but like what would be the difference between a Fender 15 watt amp and a 15 watt SX amp?
  #5  
Old 08-03-2010, 08:20 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Oregon
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckySeven77 View Post
Thanks, but like what would be the difference between a Fender 15 watt amp and a 15 watt SX amp?
IME the only differences in that range of amp are the "bells and whistles" such as CD/mp3 input, headphone out, and tone-shaping circuitry.

If you're looking to buy in the 15W range, I'd endorse a plan to spend the least you can. Generally an amp is where you want to splurge, but in this case keep it cheap cuz there's not a big payoff in the quality of sound.

I dunno Singapore, but in the US there's basically no resale value in the 15W range, cuz they come free in the typical starter packs that surface every Christmas.
  #6  
Old 08-03-2010, 10:24 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
nothing wrong with saving a few bucks as long as it serves the purpose, and makes you happy; however, at least try to stay with something reputable......
any amount of money paid for junk is too much money spent......

always consider how long something will be used, what gigs/practices it will cover, etc, etc......even smaller purchases eat into the funds, especially if you have to keep upgrading to keep up with demand
in some cases, it just makes sense to buy good, capable stuff to start with.......
it makes sense to think about quality and quantity
.........
good luck
  #7  
Old 08-03-2010, 10:34 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Baltimore, MD
Quote:
Originally Posted by mulchor View Post
IME the only differences in that range of amp are the "bells and whistles" such as CD/mp3 input, headphone out, and tone-shaping circuitry.

If you're looking to buy in the 15W range, I'd endorse a plan to spend the least you can. Generally an amp is where you want to splurge, but in this case keep it cheap cuz there's not a big payoff in the quality of sound.

I dunno Singapore, but in the US there's basically no resale value in the 15W range, cuz they come free in the typical starter packs that surface every Christmas.
I have to agree.
I bought a used Peavey 126 for that purpose. At the GC counter I asked if I should plug it in to see if it works, the guy said, plug it in to listen to sound quality, if it doesn't work we'll take it back....

I laughed at the thought that a 12 watt amp with a 6 1/2" inch speaker might possibly have "tone"

Buy something CHEAP that lets your hear yourself, and then save your money until you can get at least a 100+ watt 12" loaded cab or 2x10", etc... Under that range, it's really jsut different shades of bad...
  #8  
Old 08-03-2010, 10:43 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: La Salle, IL USA
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckySeven77 View Post
What is the difference between a good and a bad amp. I am buying a brandless amp due to my extremely low budget, and so i want to know what would be different (eg from a peavey or ibanez amplifier.) Is it a very big difference? If so? How so? Thanks!
You never did specify what your goals for this amp are. Are you planning on playing for other people? Do you want to sound decent? Are you expecting an amp that offers the least bit of inspiring sound?
You likely won't get that from anything less than something like a Peavey. I know I wouldn't.
  #9  
Old 08-03-2010, 12:21 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckySeven77 View Post
Thanks, but like what would be the difference between a Fender 15 watt amp and a 15 watt SX amp?
You ever talk into an electric fan?
__________________
"THE ABILITY TO DESTROY A PLANET IS INSIGNIFICANT NEXT TO THE POWER OF THE FORCE."
  #10  
Old 08-03-2010, 12:34 PM
Edward G.'s Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Baltimore,MD USA
GOLD Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckySeven77 View Post
What is the difference between a good and a bad amp. I am buying a brandless amp due to my extremely low budget, and so i want to know what would be different (eg from a peavey or ibanez amplifier.) Is it a very big difference? If so? How so? Thanks!
For a tight budget, power is the single-most important tone-shaping feature you can buy. Buy as much true wattage as your dollars will allow. Properly used power is what allows you to add your own dynamics to the band's sound. 200-300 watts is the minimum you should shoot for. ADVISORY: This does not mean play the amp as loud as it will go.
__________________
Edward G., Baltimore, MD
'The more you know, the less you need.'
  #11  
Old 08-03-2010, 12:38 PM
Pat's the best!
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Northern Virginia, USA
Send a message via AIM to Philbiker
What's the difference between a good and a bad car? Either a brand new Mercedes or a 10 year old Kia will get you from point a to point b. The Merc may do it with more style.

In general you can't go wrong with an old Peavey. They offer lots of bang for the buck, particularly the "TKO" combos.
  #12  
Old 08-03-2010, 12:51 PM
bassybill's Avatar
No need to ask, he's a smooth...
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West Midlands UK
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Philbiker View Post
In general you can't go wrong with an old Peavey. They offer lots of bang for the buck, particularly the "TKO" combos.
I agree that in the OPs situation, buying used is the way to go. When I was strapped for cash a good few years back, I bought an old Gibson Lab Series amp with the matching 115 cab. It was way out of date and pretty basic but IT WAS FUNCTIONAL and SOUNDED FINE TO ME. A little later I got back into the gigging scene and made some good money with that amp. Heck, I even gigged with it at Ronnie Scott's!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by SBassman View Post
Man, I'd soil myself playing in a band like that.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:45 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.