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11-08-2012, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Lublin I didn't like that you couldn't really add any actual drive with the preamp gain knob - just a bit of light "wool." The Aguilar will actually overdrive. I also, as crazy as it sounds, wanted to eliminate tubes from my amps. The new SS designs like the Aguilar sound fantastic without tubes and a tube is just one more thing to fail when I least need it to.
The GK 212MBE is really awesome. 36 lbs, very neutral tone-wise, and it POUNDS! I'm only moving it because the DB112 cabs are more mid-centric which I like. | Tubes really aren't that unreliable.
I've got literally dozens of pieces of audio gear and amplifiers with tubes. I think I have had one 12ax7a fail in the last 5 years. Preamp tubes last a very long time, and it is simple to carry a spare tube. I like to wrap one in a sock then put it inside a little tin that I kept in my gig box. Now power tubes, those do act up.
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11-08-2012, 10:24 AM
|  | Registered User Sweetwater Sound-Sales | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Fort Wayne,Indiana | | | You're going to love that rig. I have the same setup but my cabs are White Hot. I have a DB751 but for a lot of gigs I've just been bringing the TH500, it's that good!
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11-08-2012, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Calaverasgrande Tubes really aren't that unreliable.
I've got literally dozens of pieces of audio gear and amplifiers with tubes. I think I have had one 12ax7a fail in the last 5 years. Preamp tubes last a very long time, and it is simple to carry a spare tube. I like to wrap one in a sock then put it inside a little tin that I kept in my gig box. Now power tubes, those do act up. | I've had multiple tubes fail on me. I've never had a SS amp fail. Quote:
Originally Posted by MingusBass You're going to love that rig. I have the same setup but my cabs are White Hot. I have a DB751 but for a lot of gigs I've just been bringing the TH500, it's that good! | Thanks! I really wanted the white hot but was so paranoid of getting them dirty! | 
11-08-2012, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Lublin I've had multiple tubes fail on me. I've never had a SS amp fail. | +1 While preamp tube are less of a problem than power amp tubes, if I can get a tone I like without the tube, I'm all over it. | 
11-08-2012, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by KJung If I can get a tone I like without the tube, I'm all over it. | Gospel right there. | 
11-09-2012, 10:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Oakland, California | | | I'm actually trying to downsize to a smaller non tube rig, mostly because I'm in my mid 40's and all those years of skateboarding and slam dancing are catching up to my back and knees.
TH500 is at the top of my list in that regard, though I am holding out for a boss brown AG500.
Still as far as tubes are concerned, quality preamp tubes last decades. I have RCA tubes I pulled from consumer hifi that work just fine. In fact they are the best damn tubes I have ever used and they have 50 years on them!
Now some of these New Sensor and Chinese tubes are not that robust I will admit. I am pretty annoyed when I spend a grand or more on some gear and it has $2 cheapo tubes!
I also wouldn't buy an amp that has a single token tube in it. That simply isn't garnering enough of the tube magic from that one tube to justify the possibility of a gig failure.
PS-I personally have had some SS amps die on me. Ampeg, GK and Acoustic.
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11-27-2012, 06:46 PM
|  | Registered Renaissance Man | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New Jersey | | | So my 2nd DB112NT is still on backorder from MF and I have a show on Saturday. I'm pretty certain it won't show. I'm sure that I can't get by with just the 1 DB112NT, but my friend has an 8 ohm Carvin 410 which he said I can borrow. Do I throw my 8 ohm DB112NT on top of the Carvin 410 and rock? | 
11-27-2012, 08:01 PM
| | | | I bought the Tone Hammer 500 and the DB212, I could not be happier. Sounds just great! Your two separate cabs brings extra options like using just one for a small gig.....cost a little more though. Enjoy | 
11-27-2012, 08:10 PM
|  | No Longer Works a Day Job | | Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: USA | | | I have the TH500, and I have a GS112 on the way. I'm thinking I'll end up with a DB112 as well sooner or later. I like having the tonal options, especially since I'm a doubler.
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11-27-2012, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lublin So my 2nd DB112NT is still on backorder from MF and I have a show on Saturday. I'm pretty certain it won't show. I'm sure that I can't get by with just the 1 DB112NT, but my friend has an 8 ohm Carvin 410 which he said I can borrow. Do I throw my 8 ohm DB112NT on top of the Carvin 410 and rock? | I wouldn't. I'd just use the 410 cab. Plenty of volume in that & then no worries of blowing the 112.
8 ohms each is a huge mis-match - 112/410 8+()
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12-02-2012, 06:20 AM
|  | Registered Renaissance Man | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New Jersey | | Some shots before playing to a packed house with my band, Maybe Bomb, at Architekt Music in Butler, NJ.
My second cab is still on back order but the single DB112NT thumped with authority for me and Architekt's 8,000 watt PA handled the crowd.  | 
12-02-2012, 07:40 AM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Wait until you get that second DB112 (NT112 or whatever). That is IMO one of the best small rigs I've ever heard, assuming again you want a sort of 'miniDB750 into an 810) sort of vibe. Punchy, warm, articulate, fat, loud, and it looks GREAT. Enjoy!
So nice also to get that surprisingly tubey tone without the drama of tubes (even preamp tubes). Simple, reliable, loud. I still can't get over how cool that TH500 runs, even when pushed to its absolute limits.
Aguilar is definitely a company that makes gear for 'pros', regarding overdesign, simplicity, minimal 'basement options', etc.
Still quite impressed with that little box, and really impressed with the match with the DB cabs. | 
12-18-2012, 07:53 AM
|  | Registered Renaissance Man | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New Jersey | | The second DB 112 NT finally showed up last night after being on backorder for a long time. Threw some rubber amp feet on the side opposite the handle using the screws on the corners. The stack is complete. Time to order some covers from LeCover.  | 
12-18-2012, 08:16 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Atlanta | | | Congrats man, that looks sweet.
I'm currently using a a DB900 DI + TH350 with one DB112 for my small rig. Now thinking about adding a DB112NT for slightly larger gigs. oh, the GAS pains...
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12-18-2012, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by funk7856 Congrats man, that looks sweet.
I'm currently using a a DB900 DI + TH350 with one DB112 for my small rig. Now thinking about adding a DB112NT for slightly larger gigs. oh, the GAS pains... | Ease the pain - get the DB 112 NT! Its tone alone will ease the pain.  | 
12-18-2012, 09:09 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dublin, IRE until April | | | Thinking about picking up a TH500 as a backup/something different. I have the 2 DB112's and a ThunderFunk TH550 and I love the tone, but I'd love to have the TH500 too. Oh, i love the DB112's too, they're awesome...mine are Monster Green.
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12-18-2012, 09:17 AM
|  | Smile more, ok? Staff Reviewer; Bass Gear Magazine Moderator | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbia MO | | | Hey, I bet that works out really well, nice rig!
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12-18-2012, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Lublin The second DB 112 NT finally showed up last night after being on backorder for a long time. Threw some rubber amp feet on the side opposite the handle using the screws on the corners. The stack is complete. Time to order some covers from LeCover.
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12-18-2012, 06:46 PM
|  | Musical Anarchist | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sutton, MA | | | How does the NT sound by itself? Does it lack any definition? | 
12-18-2012, 06:54 PM
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