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Cbakum 03-11-2013 07:47 AM

Which input to use?
 
I've got an amp with 2 inputs in it. One of them says active and the other says passive. Normally it would be easy to figure out, but I've got a bass with passive EMG40HZ pickups and active electronics. So I'm not sure whether i should plug into the passive input cuz of the passive pickups or the active input cuz of the active electronics. Any advice would be great.

maxgrant 03-11-2013 07:49 AM

The passive input is louder, the active is quieter. Since you've got active electronics your signal is hotter, so try active first.

If it sounds too quiet, use the other.

It's not like you won't get sound.

CL400Peavey 03-11-2013 07:50 AM

Your amp has a gain control? Use the passive and adjust your gain.

funnyfingers 03-11-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CL400Peavey (Post 14012329)
Your amp has a gain control? Use the passive and adjust your gain.

I never understood why my old amp had the PAD and gain control!

crguti 03-11-2013 07:56 AM


CL400Peavey 03-11-2013 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by funnyfingers (Post 14012334)
I never understood why my old amp had the PAD and gain control!

I suppose there may be a case where your signal is so incredibly hot that you are over driving your pre easily. For most users, the gain knob should have enough taper to work.

IMHO using the "active" input is a tone such. This is coming from someone that uses a sting ray with the mid knob dimed all the time. I dont over drive the input unless I want to.

JFOC 03-11-2013 08:42 AM

I was under the impression that the two inputs had different impedance values...

Most of the time when people talk about an "active" bass they are referring to having a preamp within the bass, not the pickups themselves.

RickenBoogie 03-11-2013 09:11 AM

Always use the passive input and set the gain appropriately. If the bass output is so hot that nothing you do prevents clipping the preamp, THEN use the active input.

BassmanPaul 03-11-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RickenBoogie (Post 14012750)
Always use the passive input and set the gain appropriately. If the bass output is so hot that nothing you do prevents clipping the preamp, THEN use the active input.

Yep! This is precisely what you should do. :)

funnyfingers 03-11-2013 11:31 AM

Why? Is it because what someone previously said regarding impedance?

dincz 03-11-2013 11:38 AM

It's fairly common for the gain control to be after the first stage of the preamp, so a hot signal could be clipped before it even gets to the gain control. If you can get a clean signal using the passive input then there's no reason to use the active input.

In any case, active basses don't necessarily give a stronger signal than passives.

bongomania 03-11-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by maxgrant (Post 14012322)
Since you've got active electronics your signal is hotter, so try active first.

Nah. Active basses may be louder, quieter, or the same level as passives. Some passives are surprisingly loud.
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Originally Posted by dincz (Post 14013575)
If you can get a clean signal using the passive input then there's no reason to use the active input.

In any case, active basses don't necessarily give a stronger signal than passives.

Yes. :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by JFOC (Post 14012576)
I was under the impression that the two inputs had different impedance values.

Yes but that's mostly irrelevant. The pad on the active input lowers the input impedance of that jack, which makes it not ideal for a passive bass--it can cause loss of highs/tone. With an active bass that lower input impedance is not a problem, and an active bass also has no problem with the higher impedance of the passive input. So the impedance thing is more of a defect and a side-effect than a feature; and it is ONLY relevant in the sense that a passive bass usually shouldn't go into the active input due to loss of highs/tone.

bongomania 03-11-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbakum (Post 14012311)
I've got a bass with passive EMG40HZ pickups and active electronics.

That's an active bass. But it doesn't need to go into the active input. That input is only for basses that have such high output they cause unwanted distortion in the amp.


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