It's possible to make the dream amp?

[FunkyMan]

Last weekend I was in 2 nightclubs, and the music sounded really hard and with great quality, I approached the DJ (on the 2 bars) and asked him what kind of PA is installed in the bar....... Bose and EV (ElectroVoice) Wow men, i've already heard that those things sound really good, but not to the point that it can handle all the sound of an entire nightclub, with such a small size speakers and with very good lows.

So I wondered if this same concept could be applied to bass amps, i know that there's a whole new big market of mini amps with plenity of power (i.e. MarkBass CMD 121H), but lets be honest, we always hear comments like "It will never be like a 4x10"

So, physically, technically, it's possible to make a small amp which it sound meets the same performance of a large 4x10 cab, but without sacrifice size? Maybe this is absolutely possible, but manufacturers don't, so they can cover a wider market? or something?

[christw]

It all comes down to how much air your speakers can or are moving. Look at Phil Jones amps, a fair attempt at exactly what you're asking. The smaller ones especially are still limited by how much air they can move.

[Pilgrim]

Originally Posted by FunkyMan

...lets be honest, we always hear comments like "It will never be like a 4x10"

So, physically, technically, it's possible to make a small amp which it sound meets the same performance of a large 4x10 cab, but without sacrifice size? Maybe this is absolutely possible, but manufacturers don't, so they can cover a wider market? or something?

1) Bullcrap. Not everyone likes 4x10 cabs, and there are PLENTY of lightweight speaker cabs which equal or surpass their performance.

2) All you need to do is start reading the websites of Genz-Benz, Markbass and other manufacturers who are building excellent Class D amps and neo speaker cabs. All the sound quality anyone needs is there.

[T-Bird]

Hi.

Originally Posted by FunkyMan

So, physically, technically, it's possible to make a small amp which it sound meets the same performance of a large 4x10 cab, but without sacrifice size? Maybe this is absolutely possible, but manufacturers don't, so they can cover a wider market? or something?

It's possible, but not on a budget the average Joe is willing to even consider.

Regards
Sam

[dmrogers]

I think it is possible. BUT, it's all relative. My rig works perfect with the band I am in, and the venues we play. With another band and different venues, it might not work.

Right now, the head I use and 2x112's are more than enough for me, in another situation, I might not even be heard.

With that being said, my rig wasn't cheap. It didn't break the bank but I don't think I could say the same thing with a cheap amp and inefficient cabs.

[ledyard]

As for moving air, I have never used some of the high end lightweight super portable micro rigs and such that many of you guys play through. 2x 2x10's ...2- 1x12's, stuff like that. But while your able to hear yourselves and probably have great tone for your application, I cant imagine you "feel" your rig like you might with a 1200w + SS or 300w+ tube head through a 2x15 or maybe 8x10?? Do you?

I have played a couple gigs where the sound man was just deplorable. The WORST. FOH was fine but the stage volumes, monitors, ect....was awful. I couldnt hear myself and I play a SVT II through a 15/410 single boogie enclosure. The only thing that got me through the gig was that I could still feel the concussion of the air my cab was moving.

[thudfromafar]

The better you get, the more money you will pay. Even then, as you move up the market, you're just paying to move closer to the physical limitations of what speakers can do. At least, with our technology and understanding of physics.