Jule Amps Monique Part 2.

[chadds]

I had a jam last night. Saturday night.
There was a backline provided.
It couldn't dance like Monique. It didn't take, it didn't give.

This to say Sun morning, cheating on Monique just wasn't worth it.

[juledude]

Originally Posted by chadds

I had a jam last night. Saturday night.
There was a backline provided.
It couldn't dance like Monique. It didn't take, it didn't give.

This to say Sun morning, cheating on Monique just wasn't worth it.

Just plain fun.

[juledude]

Originally Posted by bassdoubler

haven't heard back from Jule yet though

Forgot what it is like to take Saturday and Sunday off. I liked it. The rain made me do it. Too much fun riding the mountain bike in the mud.

As I talk to James, this is getting to be more fun every day. His philosophy as to amplification for bass is the same as mine. Both of us feel that it is a HI-FI experience we must offer. Then, from that extremely wide and accurate palette it is the player who gets to choose where they want their experience to be. Not us.

This is moving awfully fast. Good things do.

James and I will get this chassis issue worked out. He is about 2 1/2 hours away and he also owns a winery. A win all 'round.

[juledude]

In addition to the two 6SL7 tubes (You have one Shuguang in on the far right, and a Tung Sol in the middle running the EQ), you have a 12AU7 buffering the outputs and a EZ81 doing the tube rectification.

Originally Posted by SactoBass

Jule: I received the rackmount Monique yesterday.

Thankyou!

Can you tell me what tubes are in it?

I know that two of the tubes are 6SL7's, and the third is a rectifier tube (what type?).

And what brands of tubes are in there? (for all three)

Thanks!

[juledude]

Originally Posted by chadds

There is a very nice "anvil" like case Jule has that has the cutouts for the handles already. Its light weight and very strong. Scroll back to that pic of a Monique in the studio going into the Berg with Puma power. The wooden Monique is sitting on one. Hey, it's on Jule's website.

Another alternative is the good lady at Studioslips.com. One of the fine local Monique players worked with studioslips.com and came up with a custom-for-Monique gig bag.

The Studioslips gig bag for Monique is not a hard case like the Monique Road box, but it is very study. Excellent for the local gigs.

The price seems right to me too.

[juledude]

Originally Posted by bassdoubler

spoke to James and Diane Dememter about building me a separate class D 800 watt amp to go along with my bird-cage Monique. . .Just waiting to hear from Jule if he'll sell me an empty chassis! This could be a pretty sweet alternative to those of us who don't have the rackmount version and still want that 800 watts of class D power!!

I know Jule. He will "sell" you anything.

[phishaholik]

Hey guys,


I need some advice from y'all. I'm in the middle of a rig shake-up and I'm letting go a bunch of gear, mostly tube heads. I've been looking at the Monique and I'm very interested in buying one. I'd be running it through a micro head as a power amp into a Bergantino AE 212.

I love the tone of my SVT through the AE 212, even though it doesn't physically fit the cab, but I definitely am trying to save some space and weight. My question is this, what would I gain from the Monique if I am already running a full tube head? I know everyone says that it's like using an amp with an all tube power section, even though it's not. Would I gain anything tone wise from switching to the Monique or are we just talking weight savings and a much better DI?

I know tone is subjective, but I guess what I'm asking is, how does the Monique stack up to the real all tube heads? Right now I have an SVT Classic, a Marshall Lemmy Superbass/Superlead, a Trace Elliot HexaValve and a Trace TwinValve. I'm planning on selling at least 3 out of 4 anyway, just because I have way too much, but is the Monique worth selling 2 all tube amps to get? I'd really have to clear out a lot of gear to afford the Monique, so it's a big purchase for me.

EDIT: I forgot to ask, would I have any trouble running the Monique in a parallel effects return? I've never heard of one before, but I plan on getting a MB Little Mark to use as a stand alone amp and power section for the Monique and want to make sure that it won't cause any problems.

Thanks


Michael

[bassdoubler]

Originally Posted by juledude

I know Jule. He will "sell" you anything.

haha good to know! Thanks Jule! Spoke to Diane today....looks like I'll be ordering one next week!

[juledude]

Originally Posted by phishaholik

Hey guys,


I need some advice from y'all. I'm in the middle of a rig shake-up and I'm letting go a bunch of gear, mostly tube heads. I've been looking at the Monique and I'm very interested in buying one. I'd be running it through a micro head as a power amp into a Bergantino AE 212.

I love the tone of my SVT through the AE 212, even though it doesn't physically fit the cab, but I definitely am trying to save some space and weight. My question is this, what would I gain from the Monique if I am already running a full tube head? I know everyone says that it's like using an amp with an all tube power section, even though it's not. Would I gain anything tone wise from switching to the Monique or are we just talking weight savings and a much better DI?

I know tone is subjective, but I guess what I'm asking is, how does the Monique stack up to the real all tube heads? Right now I have an SVT Classic, a Marshall Lemmy Superbass/Superlead, a Trace Elliot HexaValve and a Trace TwinValve. I'm planning on selling at least 3 out of 4 anyway, just because I have way too much, but is the Monique worth selling 2 all tube amps to get? I'd really have to clear out a lot of gear to afford the Monique, so it's a big purchase for me.

EDIT: I forgot to ask, would I have any trouble running the Monique in a parallel effects return? I've never heard of one before, but I plan on getting a MB Little Mark to use as a stand alone amp and power section for the Monique and want to make sure that it won't cause any problems.

Thanks


Michael

Hey Michael,

I'll let the players answer most of your questions. They are much better players than I will ever be. I'll address the loop question.

Your loop will work with Monique. It makes no difference to Monique if it is a series or parallel loop.

A bit more on your parallel effects question: The idea behind them is that you can more subtly add your effects rather than with the alternative series loop.

In a series loop your sound leaves your device entirely, and gets "effected" and then returns to your device (amp or whatever). In the parallel loop you never give up all your sound to the effects box. You keep some of it (how much is up to you usually) inside your device and you add the effect to only part of your sound. I prefer the parallel loop because it gives my customers more control over their sound and playing characteristics. Monique is greatly about giving you control of your sound.

[juledude]

Originally Posted by bassdoubler

haha good to know! Thanks Jule! Spoke to Diane today....looks like I'll be ordering one next week!

I confirmed with James today the details as to the same feet and such so the Demeter 800 watt amp fits like it should. He has it handled.

[phishaholik]

Originally Posted by juledude

Hey Michael,

I'll let the players answer most of your questions. They are much better players than I will ever be. I'll address the loop question.

Your loop will work with Monique. It makes no difference to Monique if it is a series or parallel loop.

A bit more on your parallel effects question: The idea behind them is that you can more subtly add your effects rather than with the alternative series loop.

In a series loop your sound leaves your device entirely, and gets "effected" and then returns to your device (amp or whatever). In the parallel loop you never give up all your sound to the effects box. You keep some of it (how much is up to you usually) inside your device and you add the effect to only part of your sound. I prefer the parallel loop because it gives my customers more control over their sound and playing characteristics. Monique is greatly about giving you control of your sound.

Thanks for the input! I just wanted to make sure that my plan didn't contain a fatal flaw. I never, ever use effects loops unless it's to run another preamp into the the power amp and all my amps have series effects loops.


Michael

[chadds]

Originally Posted by phishaholik

Thanks for the input! I just wanted to make sure that my plan didn't contain a fatal flaw. I never, ever use effects loops unless it's to run another preamp into the the power amp and all my amps have series effects loops.

Michael

Read early in Pt 1, "the coming of Monique" and you will find all the adjectives you could want. Here I will say after spending two more sessions with her, OmG. Whatever you hear she will do. The addition of a class D or A/D amp that is out of the way only increases the fun.

[walkerci]

Has anyone tried Monique with a Mesa Boogie 400+ Bass head?

[Baird6869]

Originally Posted by walkerci

Has anyone tried Monique with a Mesa Boogie 400+ Bass head?

How about a Mesa D180?

It is the predecessor to the 400 and I like it with Monique but I like it a lot better when I bypass the Mesa preamp and just use the tube power section.

In any case, after hauling around this 50lb Mesa beast with Monique for a while, I bought a sub-10lb Crest power amp for gigs and leave the Mesa at home. The Mesa may sound a tiny bit better than the solid state Crest (might be in my head), but not enough to justify the weight.

In any case, I have found the Monique works with most amps out there, but I really prefer it only with a poweramp. I have tried it with a Mesa M9, GK MB Fusion, Hiwatt Custom 100, GK 1001RB-II... And a few I am forgetting..... Monique is a better Pre than any of them.

[bassdoubler]

exactly....I have a Trace Elliot V6 that absolutely KILLS....but at 60 lbs. it's just not worth the weight difference. Monique wins.

[SactoBass]

Originally Posted by juledude

In addition to the two 6SL7 tubes (You have one Shuguang in on the far right, and a Tung Sol in the middle running the EQ), you have a 12AU7 buffering the outputs and a EZ81 doing the tube rectification.

Thank you Jule for that info!

The speaker cables I ordered are now enroute to me and I expect to receive them by the end of this week. I can then hook up my rig and hear Monique for the first time. I am very much looking forward to it!

[SactoBass]

Question for Jule:

In the spirit of tube rolling with NOS 6SL7 tubes in Monique, I have access to a pair of these RCAs (shown below). They are rated for a 10,000 life, and they have extra support rods and triple micas for strength.

However, I have a question about current draw.

The nominal heater current draw is 0.6A for these tubes as compared to typical 0.3A for a regular 6SL7. My question is, does Monique have sufficient power supply to provide enough current for these tubes?

[Kreken]

I've finally read through every single post of Jule Amps Monique Part 1 and 2, and I realize I've been brainwashed.

While I was in the middle of putting in my order , I slowly came back to my senses...(suspence).., and ordered a Rack Mount Monique instead of a Bamboo Monique!

In all fairness I have been exchanging e-mails with Jule for quite some time, but it seems I felt it necessary to read the entire megathread before feeling worthy and ready for the sonic gift I am about to receive.

Can't wait to become a member of this exclusive, yet inclusive club!

[juledude]

Originally Posted by SactoBass

Question for Jule:

In the spirit of tube rolling with NOS 6SL7 tubes in Monique, I have access to a pair of these RCAs (shown below). They are rated for a 10,000 life, and they have extra support rods and triple micas for strength.

However, I have a question about current draw.

The nominal heater current draw is 0.6A for these tubes as compared to typical 0.3A for a regular 6SL7. My question is, does Monique have sufficient power supply to provide enough current for these tubes?

That's beyond what she was designed for. I think someone else ran across these 600 mill tubes earlier. I wouldn't recommend them in Monique.

Even though they may appear to work, my suspicion is that the power transformer in Monique will run significantly hotter (maybe too hot to touch) and that will affect the usable life.

Sorry.

[juledude]

Originally Posted by Kreken

I've finally read through every single post of Jule Amps Monique Part 1 and 2, and I realize I've been brainwashed.

While I was in the middle of putting in my order , I slowly came back to my senses...(suspence).., and ordered a Rack Mount Monique instead of a Bamboo Monique!

In all fairness I have been exchanging e-mails with Jule for quite some time, but it seems I felt it necessary to read the entire megathread before feeling worthy and ready for the sonic gift I am about to receive.

Can't wait to become a member of this exclusive, yet inclusive club!

I'd sure like to hand deliver. I need a road/boat trip.