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Old 12-21-2012, 07:20 PM
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Yeah, listening to it after mixdown on my computer speakers seems like the bass is buried. I'll mess around some more with it tomorrow.
I don't think it is buried. I just find I always want more.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:21 PM
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Sounds great Lee, don't be afraid to bring the fader up on the bass a little more. Listened thru my studio headphones.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:23 PM
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Right on Todd, I think we have the same mantra, whatever it is that inspires me to practice more and play more (gear wise), its worth it. I hope Monique does this for me as well. Also I love chatting with the man who's hand making my gear, another plus.
You all are creative people. So you know how great it feels to be even mentioned along with inspiration.

Now I have to work harder.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:25 PM
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Monique and Baer sound really sweet together! I did a reggae gig last night and the sound with those two, with the assistance of my Walter Woods are just awesome. Used the Lull M4V for this one too.

Hopefully, when I get back in town after New Years, I can stop by Jule's shop and give the Demeter a try with the rig. I have a feeling I'll be adding that and putting the GB 9.2 max up for sale!
You might have to bring a bagel.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:27 PM
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Seems that the Monique really fits a need and/or the satisfaction of a long sought after quest. It has so much of the best of the great amps of the past.

I played them all when new and they each had something and were missing something else. Here appears Monique with so much possible tonal variation with organic like control and the freedom to run it through whatever form of watts you want. Next it's just so lucious in the Studio delivering amp sound from a pre.

Jule delivered what his print says. I have to thank our first poster for bringing the word.
Through out all the threads and PMs no one who has played it has ever said that its features or richness have been exaggerated.

Thanks, Jule!!

Happy Holidays everyone. May there be Bass on earth.
As we still say here in Santa Cruz, Chadds, "You da Man!"

Blessings to you all. The daylight is longer tomorrow.

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Old 12-21-2012, 07:35 PM
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Blessings to you all. The daylight is longer tomorrow.
YES! Amen to that Jule, My 3:42pm sunsets are done for another year! I can't wait for tomorrow, 3:43pm, just a little more vitamin D for me.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:35 AM
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Here's the demo again with the bass turned up some. Monique sounds incredible.

https://soundcloud.com/husky123/theendwbass2
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:04 AM
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Still needs more bass. However, I am seriously impressed with the sound of Monique in that recording.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:16 AM
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Still needs more bass. However, I am seriously impressed with the sound of Monique in that recording.
Us bass players all think the same.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:02 AM
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I agree that there needs to be more bass, but maybe it needs less guitar or keyboard. Is there a keyboard doubling (or doing counterpoint) the bass line during the verse? I think that is part of what is pulling away from the bass presence in the mix. You could turn the bass up, but then it would be a volume war. I'd suggest if that keyboard line is going to be in there, then it needs to be dead-nuts a double of the bass line. The great LA producers used to double guitar and bass to great effect back in the day (Steely Dan did it a lot) but the timing was spot-on.

Or I'm hearing things
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:28 AM
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I agree that there needs to be more bass, but maybe it needs less guitar or keyboard. Is there a keyboard doubling (or doing counterpoint) the bass line during the verse? I think that is part of what is pulling away from the bass presence in the mix. You could turn the bass up, but then it would be a volume war. I'd suggest if that keyboard line is going to be in there, then it needs to be dead-nuts a double of the bass line. The great LA producers used to double guitar and bass to great effect back in the day (Steely Dan did it a lot) but the timing was spot-on.

Or I'm hearing things
This is just a feeble attempt to learn Monique and how it does with my Spector's and Pro Tools. I am by no means a recording superstar as you guys are hearing. My guitar player sent me the tracks with just guitar, drums and keys. He said he used keys to help him along because there was no bass yet. Now that I sent him the bass, he's dropping the keys as we have none in the band.

The purpose of these demos is to send to our new producer so he can "get a vibe" for the music before we head into the studio. I was just excited how good the bass sounded through Monique so I wanted to pass it on. With good cans the bass seems to be at a good level to me. On my laptop, not so much.
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:24 PM
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This is just a feeble attempt to learn Monique and how it does with my Spector's and Pro Tools. I am by no means a recording superstar as you guys are hearing. My guitar player sent me the tracks with just guitar, drums and keys. He said he used keys to help him along because there was no bass yet. Now that I sent him the bass, he's dropping the keys as we have none in the band.

The purpose of these demos is to send to our new producer so he can "get a vibe" for the music before we head into the studio. I was just excited how good the bass sounded through Monique so I wanted to pass it on. With good cans the bass seems to be at a good level to me. On my laptop, not so much.

ah, gotcha. If the keys go away then the bass will sound very different. Cool vibe on the track, there's just a lot going on so it is easy for bass to lose in the mix. Laptop speakers alway fail - that's why I used my regular cans and could hear the keyboard line separate from the bass.

Monique does kill as a recording front end.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:02 PM
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Here's the demo again with the bass turned up some. Monique sounds incredible.

https://soundcloud.com/husky123/theendwbass2
Sounds really good, are you using any effects B3K?
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:24 PM
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So I had another live show with Monique last night, this time with the live band karaoke thing. No FOH for bass, covered the gig with Monique into the Puma 500 into a single Baer ML112. We have over 300 songs on the list, from 50's rock to current pop. This club tends to be more of a classic rock crowd so I got to channel some of tube era doing Paranoid, Immigrant Song, etc. Used the Lull J bass every song but one which was a good choice if for no other reason that our first set was over 2.5 hours long, then a 10 min break, then another almost 2 hour set until last call. Anyone who says light basses don't make a difference (the Lull is 7.8 lbs) doesn't do long sets. Or they don't have years of accumulated wear and tear on joints. Getting old sucks

Anywho, click on the Aguilar Agro and I was happily grinding away. Monique really takes the Agro well - not a hint of harshness. Add some analog chorus - youza. I didn't really do much knob twiddling. Dialed up a bit of mids on Monique to help me hear myself through a dense mix with the J bass. Eq is in the right spot to help with that. I can honestly say that I'm probably more satisfied with my sound at the moment than any time in the past few years. I think the Monique/Baer combination is a really good match, especially for more rock type stuff. I do have two other cabs being built that are targeted a bit more towards the hi-fi end of the spectrum. Interested to see how those work out. I ordered those pre-Monique...
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:39 PM
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IME, the Monique has worked incredibly well with all my EA gear as well as some older Epifani stuff I have....the coolest was when I sent it through the return of an SVTPRO IV into an Ampeg 810....MASSIVE! I haven't found a setup that it HASN'T sounded good with yet.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:50 PM
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So I had another live show with Monique last night, this time with the live band karaoke thing. No FOH for bass, covered the gig with Monique into the Puma 500 into a single Baer ML112. We have over 300 songs on the list, from 50's rock to current pop. This club tends to be more of a classic rock crowd so I got to channel some of tube era doing Paranoid, Immigrant Song, etc. Used the Lull J bass every song but one which was a good choice if for no other reason that our first set was over 2.5 hours long, then a 10 min break, then another almost 2 hour set until last call. Anyone who says light basses don't make a difference (the Lull is 7.8 lbs) doesn't do long sets. Or they don't have years of accumulated wear and tear on joints. Getting old sucks
7.8 lbs for a Lull Jazz? Hmmm...Bet he could do a Precision even lighter. Dare I broach it with the wife, who already gave me the business once this week for hinting at a new bass?

Nah.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:58 PM
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Com'on Jimmy the couch is not that bad
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:01 PM
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Yes it is! We have our grandson over for the weekend and I have to sleep on the couch because he takes up our whole bed...it's that bad, trust me!
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:13 PM
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Yes it is! We have our grandson over for the weekend and I have to sleep on the couch because he takes up our whole bed...it's that bad, trust me!
So if you are already on the couch......whats to loose?
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:19 PM
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Good point! OK, where's that debit card?
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