Just bought a GK Neo 212...

Murph_Orpheus · #1 03-16-2010, 12:01 AM

...which will be shipped to my house in a few days and I'm now looking to add a 2nd cab to my rig. But I can't choose between the GK Neo 112 or 115!

If it helps, I play metal on 5 string basses and through a Genz Benz GBE 1200. And I guess I would be looking for more lows, so maybe I'm leaning towards the 15"...but I'm just not sure! Any advice??

nitsuj · #2 03-16-2010, 12:03 AM

another 2x12?

Mike Shevlin · #3 03-16-2010, 12:09 AM

Tom Bowlus has a GK Neo 212 that he runs full range with a GK Neo 112 ~ you may want to PM him~ I don't know anyone who has one of the newer GK Neo 115's~ hopefully someone will chime in if we have any insomniacs out there tonight.

Breslin dp · #4 03-16-2010, 12:11 AM

+1 on the 212 or you can go the route a lot of us are going a 410 with a 212.

Murph_Orpheus · #5 03-16-2010, 12:17 AM

The 2nd 212 option is appealing to me quite a bit I have to say. It'll be another month or two before I have the cash for another cab anyway, but I guess a 2nd 212 would be worth the extra bucks! I'll have a better idea of what I want once I play through the 212 and put it through the paces, but figured I'd ask for advice on here on the mixing and matching of the GK Neos.

Anarchyok · #6 03-16-2010, 11:24 PM

I have 2 x Neo 212 and love it!!! I think its worth the extra saving!

Murph_Orpheus · #7 03-16-2010, 11:33 PM

I think I may be sold on the 2 x Neo 212 idea

Can't wait for the first one to arrive in a day or two

tombowlus · #8 03-17-2010, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Shevlin

Tom Bowlus has a GK Neo 212 that he runs full range with a GK Neo 112 ~ you may want to PM him~ I don't know anyone who has one of the newer GK Neo 115's~ hopefully someone will chime in if we have any insomniacs out there tonight.

Yup, I have had great results with the Neo212/Neo112 combo. Throw a 700RB-II on top, and you are done!

That rig is truly amazing, especially considering the relatively compact size, light weight, and (IMHO) very reasonable price. But all those factors aside, that is still one of my favorite rigs (regardless of size/weight/price).

That being said, I'd love to try swapping out the Neo112 for a Neo115.

I also have a 2001 RB, and with that much power on tap, I am thinking of picking up a Neo410 to go along with the Neo212 when I use the "big boy."

I have heard the Neo410 used in conjunction with the Neo212 several times, and IME/IMHO it's a great combo, as well.

Tom.

HailCorduroy · #9 04-23-2010, 01:36 PM

I've been planning my new rig (gotta get back to that GK sound) and am really agonizing over which cab(s) to buy. Right now, I want to buy 1 of each of the NEOs! I'm definitely getting a 700RBII head and originally planned to get a 4x10, with the plan of somewhere down the road getting a 1x15 or 2x10 to go with it. After reading some of your posts on here Tom, I'm leaning more toward the 212/112 combo. It would save me $150 and 28 lbs. On their site, it says the 212 is 4 or 8 ohms, but every where else (including the manual on their site), it says 8 ohms. Is it switchable?

How does the 12" speakers compare to 10s? I played the 700RB through a gold line 410 at GC yesterday and it had that awesome punch to it. I can only imagine the NEO 410. Do you still get that punch w/ the 12s?

I currently use a 210 and 115, both which feel like they are made of concrete. I'm looking for lighter and more power, which is why I'm rethinking the 410. It would give me more power, but still be a big, heavier cab. Having the option of grabbing a 30 lb 112 for practice would be priceless.

nitsuj · #10 04-23-2010, 01:56 PM

I have 2 Neo112's to go with my 700.

Each 112 is 8ohms, together they run at 4.

I use 1 cab for pretty much anything that doesn't require loud drums. It's nice because the 112's are lightweight and compact, but sound awesome. I thought of going with a 212, but having just the 112 to lug when I don't need the other 12 is killer. I am very, very satisfied with my set-up.

rappa29 · #11 04-23-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nitsuj

I have 2 Neo112's to go with my 700.

Each 112 is 8ohms, together they run at 4.

I use 1 cab for pretty much anything that doesn't require loud drums. It's nice because the 112's are lightweight and compact, but sound awesome. I thought of going with a 212, but having just the 112 to lug when I don't need the other 12 is killer. I am very, very satisfied with my set-up.

+1. I have the same rig, 2 NEO112's (series I) + 700RBii. I'm equally satisfied with this rig over the 2 years I've had it. I usually use both cabs even though I could get away with using only 1. I play in an alt rock\pop trio so having the both cabs onstage helps from the aesthetic standpoint.

Besides, as light as the cabs are, it's no problem carrying one in each hand for load in!

I've received compliments on my tone from musician and non-musician types.

Whitbass · #12 04-23-2010, 02:32 PM

At one point I was using a GK1001RB with some 2x10 cabs; nice amp. I replaced it with a LMII, which seemed to work better for my needs and my tone. Since then, I have replaced my cabs with HT112ERs or a AE410 depending on where I am playing, etc. Never tried the GK amp with my Berg cabs, but since it has been brought up using the GK 700RB, and similar flavor GK amps with the GK Neos, I am curious as to thoughts on the GK vs LMII for cabs like the GK 112 or 212 Neos, or AE or HTer Bergs and similarly voiced cabs.

Anyone?? Tom Bass..I mean Bowlus??

tombowlus · #13 04-23-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitbass

At one point I was using a GK1001RB with some 2x10 cabs; nice amp. I replaced it with a LMII, which seemed to work better for my needs and my tone. Since then, I have replaced my cabs with HT112ERs or a AE410 depending on where I am playing, etc. Never tried the GK amp with my Berg cabs, but since it has been brought up using the GK 700RB, and similar flavor GK amps with the GK Neos, I am curious as to thoughts on the GK vs LMII for cabs like the GK 112 or 212 Neos, or AE or HTer Bergs and similarly voiced cabs.

Anyone?? Tom Bass..I mean Bowlus??

Markbass heads really do pair up well with Bergantino cabs, IME/IMHO. The LMII into an AE410 is quite nice. The 700RB-II sounds pretty good, too, though. If someone were after the "GK sound" that would be a combination worth trying out. I'd probably favor the double HT112ER stack with the GK head, though.

That being said, I never really appreciated what the separate tweeter amp on GK heads brought to the table until I did a few gigs with an all-GK rig. If you run the cabs in bi-amp mode (and use an appropriate cable), you can push the drivers to the volume you want - and even to the point of some intentional breakup - but keep the tweeter more laid back and smooth. Even if you "get it" on paper, when you listen to this in a live situation, you really appreciate the ability to fine-tune the tweeter/driver level thing. And since you are using different amps to drive each, this is definitely not the same as just padding back a tweeter that is being fed the same (sometimes partially "distorted") signal that's going to the drivers.

I'd probably say stick with GK amps if you roll with GK cabs (that Neo212-II is a great cab, IMHO!) and try both the LMII and 700RB with the Bergs.

Tom.

HailCorduroy · #14 04-23-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rappa29

+1. I have the same rig, 2 NEO112's (series I) + 700RBii. I'm equally satisfied with this rig over the 2 years I've had it. I usually use both cabs even though I could get away with using only 1. I play in an alt rock\pop trio so having the both cabs onstage helps from the aesthetic standpoint.

Besides, as light as the cabs are, it's no problem carrying one in each hand for load in!

I've received compliments on my tone from musician and non-musician types.

That was one of my concerns with going w/ the 2 112 instead of 212+112. One of my gigs is a punk band and the guitarist uses a Marshall half stack. Can't have my side of the stage looking all puny.

ljazz · #15 04-24-2010, 03:07 AM

I think the 700rbII, neo 112 and 212 grouping is an incredible rig. I use the series 1 gk neos, and have virtually everything covered with this rig. I love to hear the head on the rails, so I try to bring a little cab as required. The 700 sounds incredible through each of the cabs, and with both cabs, it's a monster. And like Tom said, the HMS is a great feature. I love that I can adjust the horn level at the head instead of crawling around to the back of the cabs.

I've had the 700rbII for three years now...... I don't think I've ever had an amp head for this long. And I don't see myself changing up anytime soon. I've tried to jump on the micro band wagon, but there is just something artificial and plastic sounding to them..... less natural and organic .... the 700rbII sounds incredible, and has become an integral part of my live sound.

ErnieD · #16 04-24-2010, 03:40 AM

I use a GB Neox112T/212T with a GB Neopak head. I like that I can hear the 112T up close to my ears, 3x12's stacked- vert, works real nice.

When I'm feeling my Wheaties I take my 2 Neox 212T's out to play, 4x12's stacked-vert, es mas cooler. Even use a B1500 with those 2 cabs, pure awesomeness. So to OP 2x212's es betty cool.

OK, I'll jump out the GK pool now. Just wanted to splash in for abit and represent some (GB) multi-12's goodness.

MrTAteMyBalls · #17 04-24-2010, 07:45 AM

i have the neo 212-series 2 and it is really fantastic. this is my first real bass rig, but i've used a carvin 4x10, and an swr triad in the past. i like this cab better. it's really balanced, and punchy with my mesa d-180. i like a thumpier tone, so i have the tweeter dialed back, and the highs rolled off just a tiny bit on the eq. so far it has plenty of volume, but if I ever need more another 212 neo should do the trick. 4x12 stacked vertically would SLAY.

bassman74 · #18 04-25-2010, 11:09 AM

I use to own a gk700RBII + neo 212 + neo 115.

The tone was amazing, i sold it because i wanted to go with something lighter but i never found my tone with lightweight stuff so i will buy back the same rig but with only 1 cab.

I remember that everytime i unpluged the 115, it was missing something in the lows... Since the mids and high were very similar between the 212 and 115, i'Ve decided to go back to neo 115.

Whitbass · #19 04-27-2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tombowlus

Markbass heads really do pair up well with Bergantino cabs, IME/IMHO. The LMII into an AE410 is quite nice. The 700RB-II sounds pretty good, too, though. If someone were after the "GK sound" that would be a combination worth trying out. I'd probably favor the double HT112ER stack with the GK head, though.

That being said, I never really appreciated what the separate tweeter amp on GK heads brought to the table until I did a few gigs with an all-GK rig. If you run the cabs in bi-amp mode (and use an appropriate cable), you can push the drivers to the volume you want - and even to the point of some intentional breakup - but keep the tweeter more laid back and smooth. Even if you "get it" on paper, when you listen to this in a live situation, you really appreciate the ability to fine-tune the tweeter/driver level thing. And since you are using different amps to drive each, this is definitely not the same as just padding back a tweeter that is being fed the same (sometimes partially "distorted") signal that's going to the drivers.

I'd probably say stick with GK amps if you roll with GK cabs (that Neo212-II is a great cab, IMHO!) and try both the LMII and 700RB with the Bergs.

Tom.

Thanks Tom! and IJazz for your input.....