Kemper Profiling pre-amp it's for Bass too - Page 6

JGR · #**101** 12-28-2012, 02:59 PM

With the Axe, there's a decent cross section of players and endorsers.

http://www.fractalaudio.com/artists.php

FWIW, I've had the Axe Fx and now the II for several years now, and I haven't bought or even looked at conventional guitar amps since I got it. I've sold everything other than one JCM800 that is collecting dust, and my own custom design I spent a decade perfecting. I have the ability to design and build my own stuff which surpasses anything I can get commercially - and I have - but the Axe has killed my guitar amp gas. I can go beyond what I could do with conventional gear. If they added more bass amps, I'd be in the same gear situation for the low end.

JimmyM · #**102** 12-28-2012, 09:59 PM

But doesn't this look like a lot more fun:

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dukeorock · #**103** 12-28-2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

But doesn't this look like a lot more fun:

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More fun if someone else is setting it up

will33 · #**104** 12-28-2012, 10:31 PM

Half the fun for me would be setting it all up.....well, maybe not half, but it'd be fun.

dukeorock · #**105** 12-28-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by will33

Half the fun for me would be setting it all up.....well, maybe not half, but it'd be fun.

We have very different ideas regarding the definition of the word 'fun'

JimmyM · #**106** 12-28-2012, 11:20 PM

I think setting it up would be a blast...a couple times.

Downunderwonder · #**107** 12-28-2012, 11:56 PM

My tube amp cost me around $600US. It does stuff my sansamp can't for not a lot more invested.

When tubes on a chip can't be distinguished from real ones I'm sure Jimmy is big enough to admit it. Until then I'm not stressing about keeping up with any Jones boy with his computer amp I can't afford.

I probably should unload my tube amp before they can't tbe given away. At that stage Kempers new model won't be cheap enough for Jimmy to want to ditch his Reddi.

Does Kemper offer discount firmware upgrades? That would make the punt on one a lot more inviting. I don't imagine the processing needs any more power to do the job, only the algorithms.

JimmyM · #**108** 12-29-2012, 12:32 AM

I don't know much about processing or algorithms, but when it comes to digital, all I can tell you is the more processing guns available, the more I like it, and the less available, the more it sounds like an MP3 version of a digital recording of whatever they're simulating. So if the Kemper's loaded down with power, then there's a good chance I'd like it much better than cheaper digital.

I'm not against progress like this by any means. I own some of the technology my own self and have been known to use it. There may even come a day where it and/or analog modeling a la Sansamp becomes a superior technology in every way. But when close to 75% of people on here can tell the difference between a VT and a REDDI with the same VT speaker sim rolloffs applied, that tells me that day hasn't arrived yet. Getting closer, though, much closer than I ever thought it would. I used to think it was all a joke, but some of it's pretty good. But seriously now...

Downunderwonder · #**109** 12-29-2012, 12:43 AM

Dead set, the day of tubes on a chip that sound like hot glass isn't too far away.

JimmyM · #**110** 12-29-2012, 01:01 AM

I'd still rather lug a 10 lb. DI than a computer setup

seamonkey · #**111** 01-19-2013, 11:55 AM

New models out and up for presale
https://www.jrrshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=kemper
You actually have to add it to your cart to see the selling price.

A powered version.
A Rack mount version, Powered and un-powered
The power is 600w Class-D, you know it's not just for guitar, it will crank for bass too.

The price difference for the powered version is more than a good standalone power amp, but may be good for portability and convenience.

Most of the real estate on these things is for the knobs. Maybe they'll wise up and do a iPad interface to control things and have even a smaller rack mount version.

BTW - Yes - Kemper does firmware updates. Who doesn't these days. Hopefully they get UI flexibility if/when they go to touch panel control.

Other brand new amps at NAMM will include iPod touch panels. It's coming fast.

wabbit · #**112** 01-29-2013, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Downunderwonder

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Does Kemper offer discount firmware upgrades? That would make the punt on one a lot more inviting. I don't imagine the processing needs any more power to do the job, only the algorithms.

AxeFX firmware upgrades are always free and they happen fairly often as Cliff is continuously improving his product. I also really dig the free editor that comes with it.

AxeFX fanboy here. It's lighter than any tube head, the effects are really top shelf quality and the SVT model, paired with the 8x10 cab model is all I really need for a killer bass tone and I don't have to kill my back (or buy a truck) to get that tone to a gig. GAS for amps? Not anymore.

EDIT: Apologies to OP. Didn't mean to hijack the thread. Let's get back to talking about Kemper.

seamonkey · #**113** 01-29-2013, 02:37 PM

The AxeFX is a great option.

I see Mark bass is now entering the hardware modeling market. I bet they model their own line of amps and a few other familiar ones.

blubass · #**114** 02-12-2013, 09:25 AM

Not very many people have really heard what this Kemper can do. I can assure you all, its not modeling technology. You do not HAVE to use a mic to model your amp. That feature is for guitar players who have a complete rig and want that tone to go to a computer or front of house. Its not 100%. It is however 95% out of the box. You can then mess with the controls before you save the profile, and an amazing ear would have a really tough time figuring out which is which. It let's you A/B the signals of the profile and your original so you can decide how accurate it is. As stated, this thing isn't for a casual gigging or bedroom guitar player. Its really for engineers and touring artists that have problems getting their correct gear internationally. I think the price reflects that as well.

johnpbass · #**115** 02-12-2013, 10:34 AM

We've been experimenting recording using the Kemper for one of our songs. My writing partner downloaded a Bogner profile that he actually prefers to his own Bogner rig. I've been recording my bass track using a B-15 profile which, IMO, is pretty darn good.

bigsnack · #**116** 03-13-2013, 04:38 PM

With all of the new versions of the Kemper coming out, I wouldn't be surprised if we started seeing some good deals on V1. The price of entry my start to come down to earth in the very near future! Being a studio nerd myself, this makes me pretty excited.

**mjac28** · #**117** 03-13-2013, 04:49 PM

I still don't buy it I think it would make all vintage gear obsolete if it were that good I could be wrong but I'll pass.