LDS cabs Compared to GK Cabs????

johnnybass01 · #1 03-07-2011, 01:05 PM

I have been looking at a LDS 5x8 cab for stand alone situation, and was wondering as to how it would stack up against say a GK MBE410, I mean i don't think it would have as much output but I could be fooled , 8"s seem to kind of punch through very well , also wanted to compare as far as build quality , what do you think..

rpsands · #2 03-07-2011, 01:06 PM

Don's build quality is much higher than the current generation of GK ultralights. Some of the fit and finish stuff might not be quite as nice, but the internal build is much better.

johnnybass01 · #3 03-07-2011, 01:16 PM

In my experience most 4x10 cabs have some kind of dip , I think in the upper mids , I don't know personally i am really intrigued by the 5x8 , I used to have the henry 8x8 and loved the way it cut through , just was a bear to move around.. I found one in the classifieds and it is a 5x8 with the coax in the center nice looking cab and he stated it weighs 50 lb , I just don't know it the price is right , he has it at three hundred and seventy five , i don't know if that is a good deal or not , and it is about 110 miles away from me so if I drive there I don't think I would come home without it.also it is tolex covered and has a retro style grill with casters and a cover.

will33 · #4 03-07-2011, 01:20 PM

It's hard to find 8's that have decent lows and SPL all in one speaker. Most of them are more for dedicated midranges or woofers for home stereo or car stuff. Eminences beta8 is sort of a balance between the 2. Low enough fs and enough spl to get you decent volume down to around 100hz when you use 4 (or 8) of them. That's around where many 410's start to losing response. It's also a reason why most SWR Henry 8x8 cabs I come across have blown drivers....guys trying to dial in lows that they're just not capable of reproducing so go easy on the bass knob.

As rp said, LDS's material and build quality will be higher.

MysticMichael · #5 03-07-2011, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnybass01

I have been looking at a LDS 5x8 cab for stand alone situation, and was wondering as to how it would stack up against say a GK MBE410, I mean i don't think it would have as much output but I could be fooled , 8"s seem to kind of punch through very well , also wanted to compare as far as build quality , what do you think..

As far as build quality is concerned, RP nailed it. As far as the rest, there are just too many variables in play to yield a conclusive answer. Depends very much on the specific design, specific components, etc.

MM

johnnybass01 · #6 03-07-2011, 01:23 PM

Well right now I am playing through a GK MB212 and have to dial the bass on the preamp to about 2 or else it is just to boomy , I do like the mbe410 as it is a sealed cab, without any porting which leads me to believe it would be very punchy and tight.

will33 · #7 03-07-2011, 01:30 PM

Have you tried the bracing/lining fix to your MB cab? Few bucks and an afternoon fixes a lot of boom.

johnnybass01 · #8 03-07-2011, 02:36 PM

It is in the preamp stage , i did some temp bracing and lining just to see for my self, the difference if you could even scale it is only about 6 percent in my opinion , so i put it back to stock, with the bass rolled down to about 2 it is just fine, good bass not boomy at all , if you leave the bass at noon that is a different story, Gk tried it both ways and liked the sound better with out.

johnnybass01 · #9 03-07-2011, 02:44 PM

I am tempted to get a 15/6 or a 12/6 , but with my past experience with 3 way cabs it just does not cut through for most of my situations.I play a lot of hard rock and a three way cab just does not cut through like i need it to.I have built a few different cabs in different configurations with crossover's at different point's and I admit they do sound great alone just not so much in the mix , that is just personally for me. everyone is different. And my personal preference is also for rear ported cabinets to . to each his own.. i do really like what I have heard about the thunderchild cab though, I would really like to see a 212 4 ohm of this in a vertical array.

rpsands · #10 03-07-2011, 03:20 PM

Ask Don if he can get 4 ohm or 16 ohm neo 10's.

If he can, do a vertical 4x10 @ 4 ohms.

It'll be WAY better than the 5x8 he offers in volume and low end, and dispersion.

Also, for the record, I have never had any issues cutting through with my midrange driver cab. You probably haven't ever played one with a decent crossover or a mid worth a crap.