Lightest 4X10 Cab?

[HattoriHanzo]

Im sure this has been posted already but the search option on my phone isn't working...so im looking to get a light 4X10 cab cuz im tired of lugging around the heavy 8X10 and being underpowered with a 1X15 comb for gigs. Any suggestions?

[pasta4lnch]

the markbass 4x10 is light. I dont know it's weight, but I saw a mesa 4x10 at a local GC and thought it was a 4x8 it was so tiny . . .

[HattoriHanzo]

The markbass 104HR is rated at 56 pounds. Thr mesa boogie powerhouse is rated at 96 pounds! Any other brand suggestions so far markbass seems different but a bit pricey

[Matthew_84]

GK 410MBE - 45 lbs

[HattoriHanzo]

Wow 800 Watts and only about 450 retail!

[Tampabass]

Epifani UL410 - around 55 pounds. You can snag a used one around TB for $700 or so. Best 4x10 I've played through.

[HattoriHanzo]

Looks like the epifani ul 410 has a warm jazzy slap style sound from what I've read... I play metal/hadrcore/alternative/hard rock....I don't know its hard to give me band a certain genre but I don't think that would work for me

[GrowlerBox]

Originally Posted by HattoriHanzo

I play metal/hadrcore/alternative/hard rock....

And you want a lightweight cab? Pussy

[steveksux]

Any neo 4x10 is going to be pretty light, if they bothered to make a neo cab its for the weight savings, so its unlikely they'd use massively heavy wood to build it, so I doubt there's too much variation between neo 4x10s. Not enough that makes a significant difference.

Pretty much neo=light and ceramic/alnico=heavy. Pick any neo cab you like the sound of, has power and impedance that matches your requirements. They're all going to be around 45-55 pound range. A few pounds either way isn't a dealbreaker in the grander scheme of things.

If weight is that much of an issue, get 2 8 ohm neo 2x10s and stack them vertically. You can use 1 for smaller venues/practice, and much easier to carry half a 4x10 at a time when you need to use both. Easier to fit in the car. And they'll sound better stacked in to a 1x4 array rather than a 2x2 square arrangement like most 4x10s. 2 8 ohm 2x10s will give you 4 ohms, get the maximum power out of your amp compared to an 8 ohm 4x10.

I believe most of the allure of the 8x10 cabinet is the height, it gets speakers much closer to ear level than a 4x10. A vertically stacked set of 2x10s gives you that magic without the weight of an 8x10. 8x10 will be louder of course, for huge venues.

Pair of stacked 2x10s is superior to a normal 4x10 as a general rule of thumb. You eliminate comb filtering and get the drivers closer to your ear to get the actual sound of the cabinet to your ears rather than your ass.

Randy

[HattoriHanzo]

Lol yes! Carrying the 8X10 up and down stairs for shows is not fun

[BillyIVbass]

My Hartke Hydrive 4x10 I think's a cool 60 pounds. Comes stock with wheels and handles.

Peavey males a BEAST of 2x10. It's a smalled footprint and can easily handle anything you can throw at it.

[HattoriHanzo]

Originally Posted by steveksux

Any neo 4x10 is going to be pretty light, if they bothered to make a neo cab its for the weight savings, so its unlikely they'd use massively heavy wood to build it, so I doubt there's too much variation between neo 4x10s. Not enough that makes a significant difference.

Pretty much neo=light and ceramic/alnico=heavy. Pick any neo cab you like the sound of, has power and impedance that matches your requirements. They're all going to be around 45-55 pound range. A few pounds either way isn't a dealbreaker in the grander scheme of things.

If weight is that much of an issue, get 2 8 ohm neo 2x10s and stack them vertically. You can use 1 for smaller venues/practice, and much easier to carry half a 4x10 at a time when you need to use both. Easier to fit in the car. And they'll sound better stacked in to a 1x4 array rather than a 2x2 square arrangement like most 4x10s. 2 8 ohm 2x10s will give you 4 ohms, get the maximum power out of your amp compared to an 8 ohm 4x10.

I believe most of the allure of the 8x10 cabinet is the height, it gets speakers much closer to ear level than a 4x10. A vertically stacked set of 2x10s gives you that magic without the weight of an 8x10. 8x10 will be louder of course, for huge venues.

Pair of stacked 2x10s is superior to a normal 4x10 as a general rule of thumb. You eliminate comb filtering and get the drivers closer to your ear to get the actual sound of the cabinet to your ears rather than your ass.

Randy

Great info! this is a good option besides the 4X10 setup but the only thing I've noticed is that it seems more expensive....

[S.B.]

l like my Avatar Neo 410. Great full sound for the money. You can pick up used 210s pretty cheap as well.

[AwkwardLoudness]

Originally Posted by steveksux

Pair of stacked 2x10s is superior to a normal 4x10 as a general rule of thumb. You eliminate comb filtering and get the drivers closer to your ear to get the actual sound of the cabinet to your ears rather than your ass.

I concur with this. Two 2x10s will usually be more expensive than a single 4x10, but it would be the worth the extra cost. Look for what's available in your local used market and also here on TalkBass. Avatar neo 2x10s would be my first suggestion unless you have the budget for Genz Benz NEOX 2x10s.

[HattoriHanzo]

Im still debating on going with a vertical 2X10 just hoping no one will knock it down...

By the way S.B. what kinda head are you using on that avatar 4X10?

[c2thej2theizzo]

Have to agree with steveksux, I run a couple of 2x10 edens stacked tall. And it gives you the height and sound you need on most mid sized stages. I used to lug around a few different 8x10's back in the day and I only miss thier big boom when I'm outdoors on a big festival stage.
Its a little more expensive than a 4x10 but you also have the versatility of taking just a 2x10 for practice and small gigs.

[Kenner]

...an empty one? lol

[groove pump]

I also solved my 4x10 problems by switching to a pair of 2x10's and I'm getting even better performance with this layout. My issue was that the bigger cab didn't fit in my old car (Corolla). Even though I need to make an extra loading trip to move the second box, I haven't missed the 4x10 one bit.

You might also want to test drive a lighter 2x12 if you come across something that you can plug in and noodle with at a shop, etc. I don't have one myself, but I've been impressed with a couple including the SWR 12-Pack.

[Arlekiin]

I can recommend the Markbass 4x10" its really light has nice tone and I can carry 2 of these by myself If I really wanted to. Have not tried epifani's though cause I cant get them easily - from now on Ill be building my own cabs anyways

[Rick Auricchio]

Most manufacturers list cab weight on their web sites. Is there a reason you can't just look this stuff up yourself?