live rig help

[MelodicExp]

hi, im a guitar player who got inspired to play bass when i heard tim commerford play. i need a live rig loud enough to play some RATM and other heavy rock- metal music.my budget is $1000. i was thinking a bugera bvp 550 watt head with 2 fender rumble 4 10 cabs. please i need help i dont quite understand whats loud enough. if you have a different rig in mind let me know.




ps. i play a 5 string bass with and active 2 band eq. Cruzer CX150/N. i paid 150 because they messed up at the factory and it says ashland instead of cruzer.

[scottfeldstein]

I think you're in the neighborhood with watts and cab sizes. But why those brands? If you want a head with a tube pre-amp there are better ones out there. I wouldn't buy a Bugera. Those cabs are probably ok, but have you consider other brands? GK? Avatar?

If I was on a budget I'd get the better brands and hold off on the second cab for a while rather than buy a whole rig of just so-so stuff. Or go used. Used is definitely a good option.

[MelodicExp]

k thanks im really new to bass so is the the fender rumble cab ok? i was also thinking an aguilar tone hammer head because i saw anthony wellington play one and i really like the tone. thanks again for all the help.

[tdub0199]

If you want loud, check out a Gallien Krueger 1001RB II..... I use it along with an Ampeg 810E and it is very loud..... look for used stuff and save money

[scottfeldstein]

That does sound like good advice. Only, I would rather switch to guitar than lug around an 8x10. If I needed to push that much air I'd get two 4x10s.

[BillyIVbass]

Shop used; Hartke LH1000 head and an Ampeg 4x10 you'd have a smokin 1000 watt rig.

[MelodicExp]

thanks everyone for the advice

[pasta4lnch]

another route is a sans amp RBI and a power amp. . .I also personally would prefer 2 410's over an 810 (actually I'd prefer 2 212's, but that's me ). The hartke hydrives look nice. avatar is always a safe bet too . . .

[93Jazz+]

Originally Posted by tdub0199

If you want loud, check out a Gallien Krueger 1001RB II

+1 .. great amps that seem louder then stated.

Or the fusions, 550 or MB's... killer!!!

[scottfeldstein]

I sometimes feel some GAS pangs when I think about the MB Fusion.

[93Jazz+]

Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

I sometimes feel some GAS pangs when I think about the MB Fusion.

believe me, you're not the only one!

[whooomp!]

Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

I sometimes feel some GAS pangs when I think about the MB Fusion.

Originally Posted by 93Jazz+

believe me, you're not the only one!

Dying to try one myself!

[scottfeldstein]

Well, I just wonder how much I'd even need this SansAmp DI if I had a tube pre-amp onboard already. It's nice to have a DI, but I'm really using it for added sizzle with my MB500

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

Well, I just wonder how much I'd even need this SansAmp DI if I had a tube pre-amp onboard already. It's nice to have a DI, but I'm really using it for added sizzle with my MB500

Depends on the tube preamp you get. One reason I like to use a VT Deluxe with my tube Ampegs is to get heavier distortion at SPL's that won't get me asked to leave the stage. Tim Commerford may be able to get away with using three SVT/810's and running 6 mic and DI lines to the PA but I can't.

Mel, you're on the right track with wanting a big cab rig. But definitely think about another rig. The head is a knockoff of the Ampeg SVT 3 Pro, only not as good. And budget cabs almost always don't sound so hot and have very bad resale value. If you skimp on anything, don't skimp on the cabs. If you can only start with one 410, that's OK. They get quite loud, too, and later on you can add another.