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Old 09-14-2010, 12:52 PM
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LMII/LMIII + Sadowsky?

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While I really like the combination.. I think I just wanna explore more in this combination.. I usually just run the LMII/LMIII flat and then the sadowsky pre amp with a slight boost in lows..

So anyone have a different EQ setting?
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:42 PM
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Exactly the way I run mine (bass and head) with virtually every cab I own.

Don't mess with a good thing

Unlike many other amps, the LMII/III EQ really is EQ... by that I mean that the amp is relatively flat when set flat, and the EQ is voiced to keep it sounding that way in different environments. Unless you have a very voiced cab or a bass with 'problems', there should be no reason to vary the EQ of the LMII in most rooms. Of course, it has the scoopy/doopy VPF filter if you want a wider, scooped, more 'modern' tone, but that typically works against you in a mix.

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Old 09-15-2010, 12:33 AM
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Exactly the way I run mine (bass and head) with virtually every cab I own.

Don't mess with a good thing

Unlike many other amps, the LMII/III EQ really is EQ... by that I mean that the amp is relatively flat when set flat, and the EQ is voiced to keep it sounding that way in different environments. Unless you have a very voiced cab or a bass with 'problems', there should be no reason to vary the EQ of the LMII in most rooms. Of course, it has the scoopy/doopy VPF filter if you want a wider, scooped, more 'modern' tone, but that typically works against you in a mix.
Thanks Ken! I guess I'll just leave it that way..
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Old 09-15-2010, 08:58 AM
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While I concur with KJung's analysis, I will say that I've been having some luck playing with the VLE and VPF together (got this idea from another thread). The VPF adds some nice low mids and the VLE tames the extra highs of the VPF; kinda similar to the Sadowsky idea of using VTC to tame the highs from the pre. I currently set both at around 9:00 (subtle tweaks have a lot of effect on this amp; adjust to taste).

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Old 09-15-2010, 08:59 AM
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While I concur with KJung's analysis, I will say that I've been having some luck playing with the VLE and VPF together (got this idea from another thread). The VPF adds some nice low mids and the VLE tames the extra highs of the VPF; kinda similar to the Sadowsky idea of using VTC to tame the highs from the pre. I currently set both at around 9:00 (subtle tweaks have a lot of effect on this amp; adjust to taste).

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+1 Depends a lot on the cab. With my VERY mid present and low end attenuated Schroeder 115L+, the VPF to widen the tone and smooth the lower mids, and the VLE to remove the super high treble the VPF adds works wonders.

However, that is a rare case for me, and only with extremely voiced cabs.
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Old 09-15-2010, 09:09 AM
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While I concur with KJung's analysis, I will say that I've been having some luck playing with the VLE and VPF together (got this idea from another thread). The VPF adds some nice low mids and the VLE tames the extra highs of the VPF; kinda similar to the Sadowsky idea of using VTC to tame the highs from the pre. I currently set both at around 9:00 (subtle tweaks have a lot of effect on this amp; adjust to taste).

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Old 09-16-2010, 10:32 PM
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Thanks for the advice guys! The VPF really brings out that razor edge slap tone..
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:35 AM
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Exactly the way I run mine (bass and head) with virtually every cab I own.

Don't mess with a good thing

Unlike many other amps, the LMII/III EQ really is EQ... by that I mean that the amp is relatively flat when set flat, and the EQ is voiced to keep it sounding that way in different environments. Unless you have a very voiced cab or a bass with 'problems', there should be no reason to vary the EQ of the LMII in most rooms. Of course, it has the scoopy/doopy VPF filter if you want a wider, scooped, more 'modern' tone, but that typically works against you in a mix.
I'm with ya here; however with my Smith/LMII/AE410, I do use a touch of EQ, VLE, and VPF to open the AE410 up just a touch and take a slight bit off the top and upper mids...since I play the Smith leaning more on the bridge p/u...
my EQ, VLE, VPF adjustments are subtle, but without this to overcome the very tight sounding bridge p/u, my tone would get a touch too tight....its kind of a give and take relationship to get just the right amount of blossom, yet still nice and tight...
my tone is pretty much the inverse of scooped....I just tighten it one way open it another........
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Old 09-18-2010, 12:01 AM
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I use mine exactly as you do. My LMII is always set completely flat with the bass knob on my Sadowsky boosted about 20%. It's THE best tone I've ever had.
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