Looking for a 210 to replace 410HLN

[popgadget]

Is there a (lightweight) 210 cab that will give close to the same performance and sound as my 410HLN? I like the sound and volume, I would like something easier to move around. I am driving it with a Shuttle 9.0.

[billfitzmaurice]

Originally Posted by popgadget

Is there a (lightweight) 210 cab that will give close to the same performance and sound as my 410HLN?

If you halve the cab you lose 6dB of output. That's the equivalent of cutting power by 75%. So the short answer is no.
You can get around that with long excursion drivers, but currently AFAIK no manufacturer uses a long excursion ten loaded cab other than low sensitivity Acme. Long excursion twelves are offered by Barefaced and AudioKinesis.

[RickenBoogie]

+1 and if you go off the shelf, a 2x12 is a better alternative to a 2x10 any day.

[Rumblefisher]

Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

If you halve the cab you lose 6dB of output. That's the equivalent of cutting power by 75%. So the short answer is no.
You can get around that with long excursion drivers, but currently AFAIK no manufacturer uses a long excursion ten loaded cab other than low sensitivity Acme. Long excursion twelves are offered by Barefaced and AudioKinesis.

Billfitzmaurice has spoken.

Also, Don Oatman of LDS makes excellent 12/6 and 15/6 cabinets.

[Windreaper]

Sorry, no free lunch. Acme B-2 should be relatively similar in a ~210 form factor.

[BassmanPaul]

Originally Posted by Windreaper

Sorry, no free lunch. Acme B-2 should be relatively similar in a ~210 form factor.

As stated earlier: no free lunch. The Acme B2 is a wonderful cabinet but i'd not use a single cabinet on a gig. A pair in a vertical stack are delightful.

[alexclaber]

Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

Long excursion twelves are offered by Barefaced and AudioKinesis.

And they completely mess with your idea of what one or two speakers that size should be able to do!

[popgadget]

Thanks for the input. It was pretty much what I expected, but I was hoping for a more compact solution. The 410 has at least let me leave 810e at home, I thought that with the power available from the Shuttle, there might have been something lightweight with the same sort of output, albeit less efficient. I guess the Acme almost fits that description, but they're not particularly light either. I'm happy with the sound I have now, I guess I'll just have to quit whining about moving stuff.

[4-string]

Barefaced Super Twelve might be worth checking out - they get rave reviews:

Barefaced Bass - Super Twelve

Around 40lbs, vertically stacked drivers, a tweeter if you want one. Looks nice.