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Old 06-18-2011, 02:45 PM
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Ok I need a new set up I just joined a band called "a new decree" look em up they have a site it's just their band name dot com. Back on topic I need a good deal cash is a variable but I need somethin for on stage performance and venues of about 300-500 people. If y'all would go to the site hear em n give me some advice that would be phenomenal. www.anewdecree.com
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:41 PM
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Standard answer: 300+ watt head and a 4x10 minimum. Shop used, you get more for the money. Everything else, like "which amp", or "which cab", is a matter of personal preference, so you'll have to play 'em before you buy.
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:08 PM
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For that band, 750 watts minimum and a strong 410 or two. Two would be better.

The TC Electronic RH750 has a tube tone control that will get that sound. It's very dear, but worth it. However, you probably won't find too many used ones right now.

Of course I'm biased due to recent purchases. If you're young enough to lug heavy gear, the Aguilar DB750 and a GS410 would be the bomb.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:39 PM
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You could do the hard rock standard...

warwick>compressor>SVT 4 Pro>810

Thats the sound that a lot of guys in that genre are going for. However, I encourage you to try some other configs. BE-YOURSELF! B-E-YOURSELF! (failed cheer attempt)
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:05 PM
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It might be worth your while to try out a Genz Benz Streamliner 600 or 900. It only weighs 6.5 lbs and is in the same tonal universe as the DB750. I bought the Streamliner 600 and love it.
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Old 06-19-2011, 04:23 AM
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I fond of the sound of a Genz Benz 600 or bigger head with one 115 and one or two 410s. You'll need this much to fill a 500 person room.

BTW - you guys f-ing rock! Really nice sound.
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I just want to blend into the rhythm section and play some roots and fifths.
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Old 06-19-2011, 04:01 PM
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Appreciate the compliment bro. U guys have any advice on a carvin? Found a good deal on a R1000 and a 410 cab
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Well seems to be a good deal anyway
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Old 06-19-2011, 04:46 PM
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You bet! Always love good music (umm, DUH! right?)

Carvin's are good amps for the most part. As long as the cab is in good shape, pick it up. You'll probably need to add a 115 and/or another 410, but this will certainly tell you what more you need.

Caveat: Carvin's are notoriously underpowered for the rating, and will clip at high output levels. However, since you don't need this much power, you should be able to get all the volume you need without clipping. The "tube emulation" is a little off for many people. Be sure to take your bass, and be sure you like the way it sounds. No matter how good a deal it is, if it sounds bad, the deal's bad...
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Old 06-19-2011, 04:59 PM
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If I were you, I would consider tone before volume, power, etc. If you're playing in 500 person venues, there's gonna be a PA system, so just rely on your amp's direct out. You don't need a mountain of speakers to be heard.

But anyway, I would agree with the recommendations of Warwick and TC electronics. If you're willing to drop the money on Ampeg SVT equipment, most people seem to think there is no comparison when it comes to the tube-like crunch for hard rock sound.
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:55 PM
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Ok another quick question. I've heard some conflicting things, if I can't get a cab and head tht match it wattage and impedance, which one should have a higher wattage and/or which should put out more ohms I do understand that some heads and cabs have ways to change the amount of impedance.
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And also what the foxtrot is a tweeter?
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Old 06-22-2011, 10:32 PM
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And also what the foxtrot is a tweeter?
It's just a smurf woofer.
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Ok another quick question. I've heard some conflicting things, if I can't get a cab and head tht match it wattage and impedance, which one should have a higher wattage and/or which should put out more ohms I do understand that some heads and cabs have ways to change the amount of impedance.
On tube amps, you'd want the amp to be set at a higher impedance than the cab if you can't get them to match. For SS/hybrid amps, they normally give you a minimum impedance, and you should be careful not to dip below it, since it would draw too much current and possibly fry your amp.

In terms of power rating, I'd get the cabs to be spec'd higher than the heads. But it's always good to have headroom on both sides.

Also, +1 on you'll likely have PA support, so I'd make your pick based on tone and being able to provide practice volume.
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Old 06-23-2011, 03:44 AM
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As a Question,


Why Dö you Go For a 4x10

The Band guitard told me " because it's The was it's always been"

I dont have much experience with cabs and heads, i have always been The combo guy...

sorry For assaülting your thread
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Old 06-23-2011, 03:58 AM
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I have been using a GK 1001RB-II with a GK 410RBH and 115RBh for years. It can handle any style of music and any situation.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:09 AM
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Ok I looked up the gk rbh series but is there a huge difference between those and the mbe series cause I rly like the way those look and it says they r significantly lighter. Also would a PA system allow me to just take my decent little 50w amp and hook it up if y'all say I should just worry about tone?
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Ok I looked up the gk rbh series but is there a huge difference between those and the mbe series cause I rly like the way those look and it says they r significantly lighter. Also would a PA system allow me to just take my decent little 50w amp and hook it up if y'all say I should just worry about tone?
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:17 AM
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Ok I looked up the gk rbh series, what is the difference between that and the mbe series cause I like the look of that one better and the specs say they are significantly lighter then the rbh. Also about the PA system, would it b ok if say I were to just have a nice sounding 50w amp to hook up to it? Cause I dig the sound of the one I use wen I'm just messin around at my house
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:18 AM
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Ok that was retarded my phone was actin up is y I sent all that bs
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