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04-21-2010, 03:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York, NY | | | LOUDEST lightweight standalone 1x12?
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Regardless of tonal characteristics, what do people think is the LOUDEST lightweight (under 40lbs) 1x12 cabinet available (for use as a standalone). I own several heads, but would most likely be using a GK MB-500 for this particular rig. For the purposes of this question, I'm purely interested in volume, not tone. Thoughts? Thanks! |
04-21-2010, 04:26 PM
|  | Looking for Opportunities to Create Harmony | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Canada | | | Probably a schroeder of some sort.
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04-21-2010, 04:29 PM
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John K Custom Basses | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA | | | IMO, most likely a cab with an Eminence 3012HO in it.
or possibly
Schroeder mini 12+ (regular=25lbs/500w, or the light =20lbs 400W). both are 100dB@ 1w/1m
Accugroove Tri112L (38lbs) 400w 100db@1w/1m
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04-21-2010, 04:35 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma | | | I'm gonna say the Schroeder 12L+. It's mostly mids, but that can be dialed down with your 'contour' to sound pretty good.
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04-21-2010, 04:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Columbine Valley, Colorado | | | A fEarful-design 12/6 or 12/6/1.
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04-21-2010, 04:41 PM
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John K Custom Basses | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluesy Soul  A fEarful-design 12/6 or 12/6/1. | those are great sounding cabs, but IME, need alot of power to get loud. |
04-21-2010, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluesy Soul A fEarful-design 12/6 or 12/6/1. | +1
Or a http://www.billfitzmaurice.com/
if you want to squeeze out maximum SPL
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04-21-2010, 05:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Columbine Valley, Colorado | | Quote:
Originally Posted by johnk_10 those are great sounding cabs, but IME, need alot of power to get loud. | That hasn't been my experience so far with my fEarful 15/6. They will handle a lot of power and get VERY LOUD, to be sure; but I don't think they require an unusual amount of power. As I recall, high efficiency was a design goal.
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04-21-2010, 05:10 PM
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John K Custom Basses | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA | | | the 15/6 is pretty efficient, but the 12/6 really isn't.
the 3015LF is 3db more sensitve than the 3012LF.
and i don't think that high efficiency was really the design goal. it think it it was more about having an even frequency response with better dispersion.
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04-21-2010, 05:35 PM
|  | Cogito Ergo Idiot | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SF Bay Area, CA | | | No scientific results here, but I can offer that I was literally floored at the output of my new Bergantino HT112ER. On the second day of ownership I had a gig that ended up being in a larger room than expected...which was bothersome since I knew I was already pushing my luck bringing just one cab to a 10-piece R&B gig. (Carpool, weather, tight confines...) Anyway, the single cab didn't break a proverbial sweat. Certainly not a cheap cab, but I couldn't be happier with it. |
04-21-2010, 05:44 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sweden | | | One of the loudest I´ve tried, is a Tecamp XS112. Think it´s around 103dB@ 1w/1m, but the total lack of low frequencies made it not that suitable for the type of sound I´m after. But it´s loud. |
04-21-2010, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by basmartin One of the loudest I´ve tried, is a Tecamp XS112. Think it´s around 103dB@ 1w/1m, but the total lack of low frequencies made it not that suitable for the type of sound I´m after. But it´s loud. | This is why you want efficiency as a curve, not the figure at 1khz 
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04-21-2010, 05:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York, NY | | | This is all great--thanks so much! Keep 'em coming! Anyone have any opinions about the TC Electronic RS112 on this front? I I played through one of their 2x10s on several gigs and found it to be louder than expected considering the weight/power rating, and so wondered about the 1X12.... |
04-22-2010, 01:42 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA | | BFM Jack 112 would have to be a contender in this category. BFM Jack 112 - New Cabinet Day |
04-22-2010, 01:46 AM
|  | Less Ebay, more Mel Bay | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ | | My custom lightweight 1x12 with 3012HO weighs 21lbs and is pretty insanely loud 
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04-22-2010, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rpsands My custom lightweight 1x12 with 3012HO weighs 21lbs and is pretty insanely loud | Louder than your Jack 112? OP is "purely interested in volume, not tone". |
04-22-2010, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 1n3 Louder than your Jack 112? OP is "purely interested in volume, not tone". | Not louder but under half the weight.
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04-22-2010, 02:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tasmania, Australia | | | I find My Bergantino AE112 purty darn loud for it's weight size etc... probly not THE loudest- but darn nice alla same
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04-22-2010, 03:18 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Damp cottage Ireland | | If i had the GK mb 500 head i would pair it with the GK 212MBE its only 15 kg and the 4 ohm version is rated for 600 watts ,,its all you would really need.
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Gallien Krueger 212MBE 4 Ohm, Bass Cabinet, 600 Watt @ 4 Ohm, 2x12" Neodymium Speaker, 1x Speakon and 1x 1/4" Speaker Input, Dimension 679x 495x 375mm, Weight 15,4 kg
link (price in euros) http://www.thomann.de/ie/gallien_krueger_212mbe.htm
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04-22-2010, 03:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NE Florida | | Quote:
Originally Posted by VroomVroom No scientific results here, but I can offer that I was literally floored at the output of my new Bergantino HT112ER. On the second day of ownership I had a gig that ended up being in a larger room than expected...which was bothersome since I knew I was already pushing my luck bringing just one cab to a 10-piece R&B gig. (Carpool, weather, tight confines...) Anyway, the single cab didn't break a proverbial sweat. Certainly not a cheap cab, but I couldn't be happier with it. | +1! The Berg HT112ER has got to be the best 112 there is. Much better than the AE112 and the TC RS112. I've owned all 3. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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