Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Amps [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-24-2011, 12:58 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: melbourne, Australia
Question mark bass f500 eq settings

Sign in to disble this ad
i have a mark bass f500 head and bongo bass, and i want to know what is the best settings for the best sond on both?

i have tried flat eq and the normal type of "v-shape style" but im having problems with "woofing".

any thoughts or suggestions gladly appreciated.

thanks

Philby
  #2  
Old 01-24-2011, 01:37 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Nude Zealand
Start with the eq flat (that means VLE and VPF all the way counterclockwise and everything else at noon). I'm assuming that "woofing" refers to too much bass (I know, sounds like an oxymoron), and if you have the VLE and VPF at noon as well as the mids scooped in your eq, you will have a HUGE mid-scoop, a bass boost and treble roll-off. It certainly would sound like a dog. A little eq goes a long way with these -- start flat, "compensate" for your cab's characteristics and the room, and you're away.
__________________
Christopher 401T / Gage Realist Soundclip / Fishman Pro-EQ Platinum Bass / fdeck HPF-Pre Series 2
NS Design CR4M EUB / TC Electronic RH450 & Markbass F1 / BFM Jack 112
  #3  
Old 01-24-2011, 01:42 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: melbourne, Australia
Thank you so much so the vle and vlf at 7 o'clock and everything else flat!! Awesome

I have the mark 104 rear port 4ohm
So I'll try that
Cheers
__________________
MarkBass F500, MarkBass 410 rear port 4ohm
Music Man Bongo 4HH Desert Gold
  #4  
Old 01-24-2011, 06:04 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Nice rig. +1 to starting out 'flat' with the filters off.

If you aren't familiar with the logic of the filters, here is the scoop:

VPF.. this is the typical 'enhance/contour' type filter, similar to those found on the Eden, GK and Thunderfunk amps. It is an 'all in one' tone control that simultaneously boosts and extends the deep low end, softens the lower mids, and boosts and extends the upper treble. Hence, the term 'scoop control' used by many. While this control can be a nice way to smooth and open up a very mid voiced cab like some of the small Schroeders (as an example), a little bit goes a VERY long way. I can't imagine every turning that filter past 9 o'clock for any reason with any cab, and with most cabs, you would never use it at all.

VLE.. this is a unique control not found on other amps. It is a variable lo pass filter. What this means is that, as you turn it up, it doesn't really boost or cut anything, but rather, it gradually takes a fixed amount of upper level frequencies out, impacting lower and lower frequencies as you turn it up. So, at 9 o'clock (for example), it cuts just the very upper end of your treble response, making your tweeter sound more 'paper cone... hence the term 'vintage speaker emulation... VLE. As you turn it up to noon, you have cut everything above the mid mids, given almost any cab a sort of 'old school 15' type vibe. Pretty cool used sparingly.

My guess is, the head set flat with your cab, with a little VLE to control the top end if you don't dig the zing, and possible a touch of upper mid cut around 1K (that would be the yellow hi mid freq knob at around 1 o'clock and the black hi mid level knob around 10 or 11 o'clock) will sound darn good for a clean, punchy, warm tone. Of course, if you want grind or distortion, you will need an external pedal like the VT pedal from Sans Amp.

This is my favorite head. I have many clips of it on my Youtube channel, with different cabs and basses if you want to get an idea of what the head can do!

Enjoy that rig... and go easy on those filters! Another tip... the F500 preamp is designed to run clean. You should set that at a level just below the clip light coming on. To get the most open, clean tone, you should never, ever see that clip light... it isn't a 'warning' light, it is an indication of too high of an input setting. The Bongo is a pretty hot output bass, so I assume you would set your pre gain control well below noon, depending on how hard you play and how much bass you roll in with your on-board pre.

Last edited by KJung : 01-24-2011 at 06:16 AM.
  #5  
Old 02-06-2011, 01:20 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: melbourne, Australia
Quote:
Originally Posted by KJung
Nice rig. +1 to starting out 'flat' with the filters off.

If you aren't familiar with the logic of the filters, here is the scoop:

VPF.. this is the typical 'enhance/contour' type filter, similar to those found on the Eden, GK and Thunderfunk amps. It is an 'all in one' tone control that simultaneously boosts and extends the deep low end, softens the lower mids, and boosts and extends the upper treble. Hence, the term 'scoop control' used by many. While this control can be a nice way to smooth and open up a very mid voiced cab like some of the small Schroeders (as an example), a little bit goes a VERY long way. I can't imagine every turning that filter past 9 o'clock for any reason with any cab, and with most cabs, you would never use it at all.

VLE.. this is a unique control not found on other amps. It is a variable lo pass filter. What this means is that, as you turn it up, it doesn't really boost or cut anything, but rather, it gradually takes a fixed amount of upper level frequencies out, impacting lower and lower frequencies as you turn it up. So, at 9 o'clock (for example), it cuts just the very upper end of your treble response, making your tweeter sound more 'paper cone... hence the term 'vintage speaker emulation... VLE. As you turn it up to noon, you have cut everything above the mid mids, given almost any cab a sort of 'old school 15' type vibe. Pretty cool used sparingly.

My guess is, the head set flat with your cab, with a little VLE to control the top end if you don't dig the zing, and possible a touch of upper mid cut around 1K (that would be the yellow hi mid freq knob at around 1 o'clock and the black hi mid level knob around 10 or 11 o'clock) will sound darn good for a clean, punchy, warm tone. Of course, if you want grind or distortion, you will need an external pedal like the VT pedal from Sans Amp.

This is my favorite head. I have many clips of it on my Youtube channel, with different cabs and basses if you want to get an idea of what the head can do!

Enjoy that rig... and go easy on those filters! Another tip... the F500 preamp is designed to run clean. You should set that at a level just below the clip light coming on. To get the most open, clean tone, you should never, ever see that clip light... it isn't a 'warning' light, it is an indication of too high of an input setting. The Bongo is a pretty hot output bass, so I assume you would set your pre gain control well below noon, depending on how hard you play and how much bass you roll in with your on-board pre.
Played with those settings and sounds so amazing, new strings on the bass make it sound even better. Thank you.

Sent from my iPhone using TalkBass
__________________
MarkBass F500, MarkBass 410 rear port 4ohm
Music Man Bongo 4HH Desert Gold
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:49 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.