Markbass 1000 Watt Powered Bass Cabinet

[cavemanbass]

Just saw this posted on the Markbass site:

Markbass BAS 121 Lite

Alain Caron Signature powered cabinet



SPEAKER SIZE
1x12”

BASS PORTS
rear

TWEETER
1.25” compression driver and custom horn

POWER
800W (digital) + 200W (analog)

SENSITIVITY
103 dB SPL

Looks interesting - anyone have more info about it; things like dimensions, weight, inputs, outputs (ext speaker, direct, etc), pricing, availability?

NOTE - I'm editing the title and adding an image, surely someone must be interested and able to contribute about such a unique product...

[cavemanbass]

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[ChrisPbass]

far out. that must be one hell of a 12" speaker.

[Ewo]

Originally Posted by ChrisPbass

far out. that must be one hell of a 12" speaker.

Yeah, I was wondering about that, too...

And can somebody please 'splain the power spec to me? Non capisco...

[Munjibunga]

Probably peak values.

[CapnSev]

Originally Posted by Munjibunga

Probably peak values.

I would also wager that you don't get that kind of wattage out of that cab if it's an 8 ohm cab. You probably need a second cab for the full power. (Just speculating)

[bassman1185]

Originally Posted by Ewo

Yeah, I was wondering about that, too...

And can somebody please 'splain the power spec to me? Non capisco...

My guess is a digital (Class D) poweramp for the woofer, and a conventional analog amp for the tweeter.

Interesting concept. Seems like a 1000 watt power section would be more at home in a 4x10 (or 8x10, for that matter) than a 1x12 cabinet.

[jnewmark]

Oh boy, I can't wait for the cab guru's to see this.

[Govier966]

4 of those would be juicy

[Bassflute]

Originally Posted by cavemanbass

Just saw this posted on the Markbass site:

Markbass BAS 121 Lite

Alain Caron Signature powered cabinet



SPEAKER SIZE
1x12”

BASS PORTS
rear

TWEETER
1.25” compression driver and custom horn

POWER
800W (digital) + 200W (analog)

SENSITIVITY
103 dB SPL

Looks interesting - anyone have more info about it; things like dimensions, weight, inputs, outputs (ext speaker, direct, etc), pricing, availability?

NOTE - I'm editing the title and adding an image, surely someone must be interested and able to contribute about such a unique product...

wonder what happened?

Cheers,
Cameron

[jlepre]

Not to sound dumb, but what would you need a powered cab for? Is it like a combo?

I'm a little confused.

[bassplayer8953]

1000 watts through a 1 x12... ? ...

Color me sceptical...If it can handle produce, & the speaker handle, that kind of wattage, without farting or going KABLAMMO! ...then it's the bass invention of the century.

Until then I'll believe it when I see (& play) it...

[bassman1185]

Originally Posted by jlepre

Not to sound dumb, but what would you need a powered cab for? Is it like a combo?

I'm a little confused.

It seems to be a combo without a preamp. It would be useful if you have a naturally beautiful sounding bass, and you don't need to hype the sound up with another preamp, or if you already have an external preamp, this would potentially be a little more simple.

[KJung]

Originally Posted by bassplayer8953

1000 watts through a 1 x12... ? ...

Color me sceptical...If it can handle produce, & the speaker handle, that kind of wattage, without farting or going KABLAMMO! ...then it's the bass invention of the century.

Until then I'll believe it when I see (& play) it...

Most probably their 800 watt class D power amp, which puts out about 450 watts into 8ohms (so you can add an extension to get up to full power). The other amp is for the biamped top end. From what I remember, the preamp for this self powered speaker system has DSP capability, which allows for compression of the low end and lots of tonal adjustment within different frequency ranges, so a bit similar to the Bergantino IP in concept. With that DSP and a heavy duty driver, it would not be impossible for a 12 to handle the 450 watts or so. The preamp is a cool pedal which allows for true stereo operation and DSP programming 'on the fly' with storable presets. Pretty cool if they can pull it off.

Strange though, if it doesn't have a mid driver. Why would you need a 200 watt power amp to drive a dinky little tweeter!? The original unit shown at NAMM last year was a three way, biamped cab with a heavy duty 'LF' type 12 and a biamped mid speaker/Tweeter.

[JimmyM]

i'm having a real hard time believing that 112 in that little cab will take anywhere near 450w, let alone the tweeter taking 100w.

[billfitzmaurice]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

i'm having a real hard time believing that 112 in that little cab will take anywhere near 450w, let alone the tweeter taking 100w.

They likely won't, but having some extra amp headroom isn't a bad thing, and with the small size and weight of Class D it's not a cartage issue.

[s_mcsleazy]

*pulls out magnifying glass*

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh now i get it.

[jlepre]

How much $$$?

[KJung]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

i'm having a real hard time believing that 112 in that little cab will take anywhere near 450w, let alone the tweeter taking 100w.

While I was never a big fan of the Bergantino IP's (primarily due to the fussy input stage and no preamp that was specifically designed for the unit), the little 112 with the 500 watt B&O power module was very impressive volume-wise. That DSP is key, which allows you to do all kinds of stuff to 'protect and optimize' the driver... hard hi pass cut-offs, selective compression of the lowest notes, and 'frequency smoothing' EQ curves, etc.

That being said, again, moving from a mid driver/tweeter design to just a tweeter design but still biamping seems to me to be like putting a V8 in a Pinto. Not sure how this will perform, given what I believe will be a brutal price tag.

I guess we shall see. Also, my comments on the programmable DSP preamp pedal are based on the prototype unit at NAMM last year. Things might have changed quite a bit since then (since the prototype had a three way with mid driver design, which actually does make biamping a cool option).

[Slaine01]

Always wanted a light weight powered cab that I could run, for instance, a Sansamp or Eden D.I with. Hmmmmmmm