Mesa Boogie 6x10

Sifl · #1 11-03-2010, 09:40 PM

I just got myself a used Mesa 610. My impression with this cab is that it has a lot of highs, even with the horn completely off. I have to cut my 400RB's treble to around 9 o'clock to get rid of the "shrillness." I play a Hoppus P and I have the amp eq'd to my liking, I was just wondering what your thoughts are on this cab.

Also, did Mesa ever make any cabs with tweed grill cloths? My 610 has a tweed front, which looks super rad, but is it from factory or the previous owner?

JimiLL · #2 11-03-2010, 09:46 PM

try starting off with your whole eq flat. The mids could be the cause of the shrilliness you speak of.

Cant comment on the tweed tho

kranahan · #3 11-03-2010, 10:02 PM

love the cab. i miss it. i used the horn on mine because i loved the sound. i play a fender p-bass with quarter-pounders as well.

the tweed grill cloth means it is a vintage powerhouse or custom made cab.

how's bozeman? i was just up there a couple months ago. it was beautiful there.

Sifl · #4 11-03-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JimiLL

try starting off with your whole eq flat. The mids could be the cause of the shrilliness you speak of.

Cant comment on the tweed tho

I did start flat with the eq because that's always a good starting point, but there was way too much high end. So I cut the treble, left everything flat and the "shrillness" diminished. Is the Mesa just voiced that way?

Sifl · #5 11-03-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kranahan

love the cab. i miss it. i used the horn on mine because i loved the sound. i play a fender p-bass with quarter-pounders as well.

the tweed grill cloth means it is a vintage powerhouse or custom made cab.

how's bozeman? i was just up there a couple months ago. it was beautiful there.

I'm still learning my way around this cab, for sure. Having the horn on just added to the shrillness. I'm attempting to simplify my bass experience so I just automatically turn off the horn since it's one more thing for me to potentially screw up!

Bozeman is starting to get cold! Were you up here on tour? And are you a giant? I checked out the video on your band's Myspace and your P seriously looks like a regular guitar!

Sifl · #6 11-04-2010, 11:08 AM

Anybody else use a 400RB with a Mesa 610?

iamdenialNJ · #7 11-04-2010, 11:20 AM

I used to play an 80s 400rb through a Mesa Road Ready 810. It sounded great but moving the cab was a *****.

hover · #8 11-04-2010, 11:21 AM

is that horn l-pad attenuated? I f so, never turn it all the way down, it could overhead, fail, and cook the horn, or worse, the amp from an impedence spike.

kranahan · #9 11-04-2010, 11:24 AM

I was in Ennis for vacation over the 4th of July. The fireworks are nuts up there. They spend thousands on them.

I am only 6' tall. The other members in my band are short. haha.

I used an Ampeg SVT-CL with my 610 powerhouse. First things first, turn the crossover to bright 3k. Normal is 5k which is a little much. Mesa is known for its clarity. Since I like a little overdrive, I cracked the gain on my head and got a clear, growly distortion. Otherwise, you will hear everything going into this cab- all movement on the neck and fret noise. I would say mess with your tone knob on your bass but...

Sifl · #10 11-04-2010, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kranahan

I was in Ennis for vacation over the 4th of July. The fireworks are nuts up there. They spend thousands on them.

I am only 6' tall. The other members in my band are short. haha.

I used an Ampeg SVT-CL with my 610 powerhouse. First things first, turn the crossover to bright 3k. Normal is 5k which is a little much. Mesa is known for its clarity. Since I like a little overdrive, I cracked the gain on my head and got a clear, growly distortion. Otherwise, you will hear everything going into this cab- all movement on the neck and fret noise. I would say mess with your tone knob on your bass but...

Does the crossover work when the horn is all the way down? I have no clue about that stuff in the back. I have my amp eq'd to my liking, just have to hear it with the rest of the band.

I was in Ennis for the 4th as well. We sat up on the hill in a cemetery about 100 yards from where they were setting them off. It was so awesome being right under them!

NKBassman · #11 11-04-2010, 11:48 AM

Are you worrying about it when played solo, or in a band setting? Highs will always sound worse in a solo setting, but in a full band setting I wouldn't worry nearly as much about it.

Sifl · #12 11-04-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NKBassman

Are you worrying about it when played solo, or in a band setting? Highs will always sound worse in a solo setting, but in a full band setting I wouldn't worry nearly as much about it.

I'm not too worried about it, I'm sure I'll get it to sound good.

I guess the point of this thread is to find out how the Mesa 610 is voiced. Especially how it compares to an Ampeg 810. I don't have to cut the treble so much when using my 400RB through the 810.

tombowlus · #13 11-04-2010, 12:06 PM

Wow, I have gigged with a PH610 and I have never noticed anything approaching "shrillness."

IME, this cab has been a sledgehammer, live.

I am wondering if there is something wrong with your cab. Are you getting sound coming out of all six drivers?

As for the tweed, Mesa/Boogie offers a wide range of custom finishes and grill options, so you probably could get one made, if you were so inclined.

Sifl · #14 11-04-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tombowlus

Wow, I have gigged with a PH610 and I have never noticed anything approaching "shrillness."

IME, this cab has been a sledgehammer, live.

I am wondering if there is something wrong with your cab. Are you getting sound coming out of all six drivers?

As for the tweed, Mesa/Boogie offers a wide range of custom finishes and grill options, so you probably could get one made, if you were so inclined.

Yeah, everything works with the cab. It's probably just my ears being accustomed to the Ampeg 810. In your opinion, if you don't mind, how does the Mesa compare to the Ampeg 810?

Oh and my cab already has a tweed grill cloth so I assume the original owner ordered it that way. I just wasn't sure if this was standard or a custom job.

georgestrings · #15 11-04-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sifl

I have my amp eq'd to my liking, just have to hear it with the rest of the band.

I don't understand this - how can you have it "eq'd to your liking", but then say it's too bright???

- georgestrings

georgestrings · #16 11-04-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sifl

It's probably just my ears being accustomed to the Ampeg 810.

That was my 1st thought, and that also you're refusing to change your amp's EQ to suit your new cab...

I've been gigging a PH610 for over 2 years, and also gig an SVT810e fairly frequently - and the Mesa is definitely much clearer and has more highs than the Ampeg - as well as having way stronger lows...

- georgestrings

georgestrings · #17 11-04-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sifl

I'm not too worried about it, I'm sure I'll get it to sound good.

I guess the point of this thread is to find out how the Mesa 610 is voiced. Especially how it compares to an Ampeg 810. I don't have to cut the treble so much when using my 400RB through the 810.

As I said, the Mesa definitely has more highs and low end than the Ampeg... I haven't played a 400rb thru mine, but I've gigged it tons of times with a 700rb-II, and they work really well together... I don't have to cut highs when doing this, but I also like enough highs that they sound like too much when playing by myself - that way, I sound just right with the rest of the band in the mix...

- georgestrings

georgestrings · #18 11-04-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tombowlus

Wow, I have gigged with a PH610 and I have never noticed anything approaching "shrillness."

IME, this cab has been a sledgehammer, live.

Same here - although I'm currently enjoying the BB750 + PH810 even more...

- georgestrings

Sifl · #19 11-04-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by georgestrings

That was my 1st thought, and that also you're refusing to change your amp's EQ to suit your new cab...

I've been gigging a PH610 for over 2 years, and also gig an SVT810e fairly frequently - and the Mesa is definitely much clearer and has more highs than the Ampeg - as well as having way stronger lows...

- georgestrings

This was definitely true. What I meant by I have it eq'd to my liking is that I changed (finally!) the settings to compensate for the brightness, by cutting the treble. I have the cab sounding great to me now, it just took me getting over my stubborness and eq'ing the amp to suit the cab. Both the amp and cab are new to me. I've been using the 810 and an LMII for almost three years now, so I guess this is all a learning experience for me!

Sifl · #20 11-04-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by georgestrings

As I said, the Mesa definitely has more highs and low end than the Ampeg... I haven't played a 400rb thru mine, but I've gigged it tons of times with a 700rb-II, and they work really well together... I don't have to cut highs when doing this, but I also like enough highs that they sound like too much when playing by myself - that way, I sound just right with the rest of the band in the mix...

- georgestrings

I'll probably bring them back up once the band practices tonight. You have been most helpful, sir!