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Old 03-07-2012, 01:51 PM
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Dang, you guys--really? Not enough power for bar gigs? I'm playing in an Oasis tribute band right now with two guitar players--one through a Marshall JCM 900 1/2 stack and the other through a custom-built Hiwatt-esque tube amp and a 2x12--and I've never had trouble keeping up, even with just my 1x12 Scout with the gain at 1:30 and the master at noon. When I run my 8 ohm extension cab (the Scout is 4 ohms), then it's even better. These guys play loud, and the drummer hits hard--too hard, really.

I was finally able to get them to turn down a bit at our last rehearsal, and as a result was able to turn my master down to 10:00! I have the Tele/JAN Philips combo in the head now, and I think I am getting a bit more clean headroom. I did need to boost the 2K on the para a bit, though, as these tubes seem a bit "darker" to me. Don't get me wrong: like all of us, I'd love to have power to spare, but not once since I bought my WA have I thought I'd need to get something more powerful.

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PA support vs No PA support can make all the difference in the world to some.
I'm talkin' no PA support, my friend
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Old 03-07-2012, 02:42 PM
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I'm talkin' no PA support, my friend
I wish I had your drummer to play with. Ours hits hard or harder and we all have to keep up with him, so it gets louder than it should IMO.
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Old 03-07-2012, 02:45 PM
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Whenever you have to argue with bandmates about appropriate volume; there's an issue there.

(for the song, situation, venue, whatever)

IMO, YMMV.
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Old 03-07-2012, 02:47 PM
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Whenever you have to argue with bandmates about appropriate volume; there's an issue there.

(for the song, situation, venue, whatever)

IMO, YMMV.
I agree. But overall, both the gig and the hang are great fun, so it's fine print.
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Old 03-07-2012, 05:04 PM
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I wish I had your drummer to play with. Ours hits hard or harder and we all have to keep up with him, so it gets louder than it should IMO.
No, no--it's the same way in my band, that's what I was trying to say. This guy is all muscle, no finesse, and to tell you the truth, he doesn't work for this band. "Wonderwall" is a mess; I have to both create and hold down the groove because this guy just bashes away and wouldn't know a Merseybeat if it hit him in the head. However, I'm the new guy and am just happy to have a steady gig playing music I enjoy for the first time in years, so I have to be diplomatic.
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Old 03-07-2012, 05:06 PM
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Whenever you have to argue with bandmates about appropriate volume; there's an issue there.

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IMO, YMMV.
Lol, I've been playing for almost 25 years, Mousier, and I don't think I've ever played in a band where we didn't have to tell at least one guy to turn down. I was sort of under the impression that arguing about volume was part and parcel of being in a band!
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:35 PM
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I just rolled an NOS Brimar long plate into V1. It sounds far better than the stock tube... Warmer, smoother and much cleaner and tighter in the lows/low mids. I tried a few others in the MOSFET section, but came back to the stock Mesa tube.. I also upgraded the fan to a 'silent' type case fan and I'm currently building an aluminum head case for it.. I'll post up when I get that done. The WA just sounds fantastic... What a great little piece of gear!
I'm kinda intrigued by the Brimer. Has anyone else tried one of these?
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Old 03-07-2012, 07:13 PM
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Lol, I've been playing for almost 25 years, Mousier, and I don't think I've ever played in a band where we didn't have to tell at least one guy to turn down. I was sort of under the impression that arguing about volume was part and parcel of being in a band!
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Honestly I can not figure out what are your volumes...
Last year I played in places like these with my old m6 carbine, gain at noon and master maximum at 9 o'clock...






so I decided to change and buy my actual walkabout. In palces like this gain at noon and master at 10 o'clock...



Always with my eden 410T 4ohm...

In small places without PA the scout cab is enough...
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:02 PM
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With a 410 the WA is fine for what I do, which is hack garage band stuff sans PA, mostly in small bars. 3x12 works as well. Anything less in terms of cone area and it's not quite enough for me.
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:05 PM
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OK.
Clearly, our preferences and needs are different.

I have no problem with that

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Honestly I can not figure out what are your volumes...
Last year I played in places like these with my old m6 carbine, gain at noon and master maximum at 9 o'clock...






so I decided to change and buy my actual walkabout. In palces like this gain at noon and master at 10 o'clock...



Always with my eden 410T 4ohm...

In small places without PA the scout cab is enough...
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:16 PM
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:17 PM
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Did anyone get a chance (as per a previous poster) about driving a power amp with the WA
Everytime I've tried this with Ampeg gear (SVP, or pre out of SVT or V4B) I was disapointed as it just didn't sound louder, it sounded different (and yes I was using lead sleads)
I want to believe it works; WA pre out to 1 RS of Peavy at 1 Killowatt: I could get behind that but ONLY if the sound stays right.
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:19 PM
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:34 PM
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:57 PM
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I put my WA on hold today with hopes of finally being able to get it over the weekend. Hoping I'll be happy with the headroom through big cabs (412) - I don't mind the schlepp...
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:57 PM
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:11 AM
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Looks like I am joining the club, thanks to fleaBay.

Two amps will enter the ring - only one will stay:
Walkabout, or Eden WT550 with an overdrive pedal.

Cabs: a Genz Neo 212t, and before long a fEarful 1212/6.

The battle could be epic!
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:57 AM
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Looks like I am joining the club, thanks to fleaBay.

Two amps will enter the ring - only one will stay:
Walkabout, or Eden WT550 with an overdrive pedal.

Cabs: a Genz Neo 212t, and before long a fEarful 1212/6.

The battle could be epic!
You'll want to keep both! Well, at least I did. I have a WT-400 and I just couldn't get rid of it when I switched to the Walkabout. The Eden just does so many things well for me in a cover group scenario. For my original band the Walkabout gives me the tone I'm looking for.

They are both very different amps. I used to use a VT Bass in front of the Eden to get a more vintagey dirt sound but that combo didn't really do that magic that the walkabout does. I like the clean on the Eden a little better but that's just because I'm used to the Eden sound.

Let us know how it works out for you.
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