Mesa Boogie Walkabout Mega-thread Pt 7

[Jim C]

Originally Posted by tombowlus

Good point. I will say that the AE212 is definitely in the same ballpark, volume-wise, as two ML-112's.

My only reservation about driving a single Neo212-II is that my WalkAbout never seemed thrilled to be pushing an 8-ohm load. Another fun combo, as I have mentioned before, is two Ampeg SVT-210AV's with the WalkAbout.

Tom,
It looks like GK builds a 4 ohm 2x12 Neo (according to their site) although MF and Music 123 don't stock tehm and won't allow returns on non-stock items; agreed that the 4 ohm version of a 1-cabinet rig is the best plan.

Had not considered the SVT-210 AV's. Will search for your post later today (unless you have a link handy - hint). I keep thinking these are just lttle toys to go build a mini-SVT stack just like the Marshall mini-stack versions (which turned out to be good recording amps), but will remain open minded to anything that works!

[Chef]

I tried the 2x210AV stack when I had those.
If you dig a sealed cab, tweeterless vintage tone, they're great.

[CElton]

Originally Posted by Jim C

Tom,
It looks like GK builds a 4 ohm 2x12 Neo (according to their site) although MF and Music 123 don't stock tehm and won't allow returns on non-stock items; agreed that the 4 ohm version of a 1-cabinet rig is the best plan.

Had not considered the SVT-210 AV's. Will search for your post later today (unless you have a link handy - hint). I keep thinking these are just lttle toys to go build a mini-SVT stack just like the Marshall mini-stack versions (which turned out to be good recording amps), but will remain open minded to anything that works!

I thought I saw a post earlier where you said you might have a good deal available on the Genz Benz NeoX 212. IMO, you really owe it to yourself to try it out with the WA if you can. Great pairing especially with the wonderful EQ on the WA. I know "loud enough" is an ambiguous term around here, but the GB is very efficient and it was plenty for everything I did, especially with PA support.

[speyer]

Rehersal with the Walkabout last night....

I had a walkabout 12" scout a couple years back and sold it cuz I could never really dig the sound when it was being played hard. At the time, I didn't have any standalone cabs to try the head with, and the scout always sounded 'farty' and undefined. Last night, yanked the head out of my new combo and played it through my RS210 and it was fantastic! Growly, full and forceful... nice and punchy, you gotta just love the voicing of this head! I can't wait to try it in a 4ohm setup at a gig!

[tombowlus]

Originally Posted by borgix

Is it me or there are no many guys using the mesa PH cabinets with this wonderful beast?
Did I went wrong in buying the PH 2X10 and PH 2X12?
Am I crazy for wanting more a PH1X15?
I really like their sound and punch, they are powerful for there size, but am I wrong?
Is there any problem with them?

Cheers

Nope, that's a great setup. I really like the PH210/PH212 combo, and the WalkAbout rocks it!

[tombowlus]

Originally Posted by Jim C

Tom,
It looks like GK builds a 4 ohm 2x12 Neo (according to their site) although MF and Music 123 don't stock tehm and won't allow returns on non-stock items; agreed that the 4 ohm version of a 1-cabinet rig is the best plan.

Yeah, the thing is finding them, I guess...

Had not considered the SVT-210 AV's. Will search for your post later today (unless you have a link handy - hint). I keep thinking these are just lttle toys to go build a mini-SVT stack just like the Marshall mini-stack versions (which turned out to be good recording amps), but will remain open minded to anything that works!

I'm not sure where I posted that but mostly I was saying that it was a good matchup and that with the WalkAbout, you can get a lot more push and volume out of those cabs than you can with the Micro-VR. Here's a gig shot:

[borgix]

Originally Posted by tombowlus

Nope, that's a great setup. I really like the PH210/PH212 combo, and the WalkAbout rocks it!

Thank you tombowlus...
I began to read all the posts but I gave up at the first thread page 43.....

I think It will be interesting to make a summary of this giga-mega-thread....
Fans
Valves
Problems
Solutions
Good cabinets
Etc...

But it will give a lot of work, I understand...it´s just a suggestion from a crazy guy who understands that this is not a job.

[WoodyJ]

Originally Posted by borgix

Is it me or there are no many guys using the mesa PH cabinets with this wonderful beast?
Did I went wrong in buying the PH 2X10 and PH 2X12?
Am I crazy for wanting more a PH1X15?
I really like their sound and punch, they are powerful for there size, but am I wrong?
Is there any problem with them?

Cheers

The PH cabs put the WA in entirely different (better) realm.

Mine was a Scout 12 that sounded fabulous at moderate volume. However, not so fabulous when pushed, and I'm not talking really loud.

These solved the problem. Featherweight rig fans need not apply, though. PH cabs are heavy.

[bassgod0dmw]

Has anybody ever paired up a Walkabout Scout combo with a Bag End S15D or S15XD?

I've got a double gig tomorrow night. The first one is a small acoustic type gig where the Walkabout combo would kill. The second is a full on rock show where I'd normally use my Streamliner and both Bag End cabs.

I can easily just use the Streamliner and a single Bag End for the 1st gig...but it would be more fun to use the WA. Then I would just use the WA with one of the BE cabs for the 2nd gig. I just won't be able to test it at full volume before the show, so I'd be willing to hear some opinions and just go with it if they sound good.

So? Option 1 or option 2?

1: Walkabout for 1st gig, Walkabout + BE cab for 2nd gig
2: Streamliner and BE cabs for both gigs

[Aladinsane1969]

My Oasis tribute band played a gig last night at a small bar. We only used the PA for vocals. Tiny stage--I was crammed between the drummer and one of the guitar players. The drummer was hitting too hard for the room, and one of the guitar players was WAY too loud (luckily he was on the other side); my ears are still ringing. My WAS and 1x12 extension cab were more than enough. I had the gain at 1:30 and the master at noon--plenty of power and tone for days.

[Chef]

Just to be clear,
at noon and noon, you're out of headroom, and all there is left is "flavor," more or less.

[Aladinsane1969]

Originally Posted by Chef

Just to be clear,
at noon and noon, you're out of headroom, and all there is left is "flavor," more or less.

I hear you, Chef--I just meant that in my situation, I can't imagine needing more.

[Chef]

kewl.

I like having mucho horsepower in reserve.
Or, at least a little. Some.

It may be that Walkabout>GK 2x212 will net me some reserves.

[Aladinsane1969]

Originally Posted by Chef

kewl.

I like having mucho horsepower in reserve.
Or, at least a little. Some.

It may be that Walkabout>GK 2x212 will net me some reserves.

I think we all do--it's a bass player thang', and I would welcome a 600 watt Walkabout as much as anyone. However, if for some reason it got to the point where my 2x12 cabs weren't doing the job--something I can't really see happening with the gigs I'm doing--I'd just do what you guys have recommended and go with more speakers. And, at clubs with backline gear, it's awfully easy to plug the WA into what they have, which from my experience tends to be an Ampeg 8x10 refrigerator cab--something I will NEVER AGAN own and attempt to lug around!!!

[emblymouse]

I'm running S15 D's with my old brownface head. I can't imagine needing more. I luv the Scout 12's but this is great pairing of old school-non neo-can't hurt 'em gear. Fart no more

Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

Has anybody ever paired up a Walkabout Scout combo with a Bag End S15D or S15XD?

I've got a double gig tomorrow night. The first one is a small acoustic type gig where the Walkabout combo would kill. The second is a full on rock show where I'd normally use my Streamliner and both Bag End cabs.

I can easily just use the Streamliner and a single Bag End for the 1st gig...but it would be more fun to use the WA. Then I would just use the WA with one of the BE cabs for the 2nd gig. I just won't be able to test it at full volume before the show, so I'd be willing to hear some opinions and just go with it if they sound good.

So? Option 1 or option 2?

1: Walkabout for 1st gig, Walkabout + BE cab for 2nd gig
2: Streamliner and BE cabs for both gigs

[bassgod0dmw]

Originally Posted by emblymouse

I'm running S15 D's with my old brownface head. I can't imagine needing more. I luv the Scout 12's but this is great pairing of old school-non neo-can't hurt 'em gear. Fart no more

I've ran just the head with both S15D's, but I'm wondering about running the combo with one S15D. I'm more worried about tone & pairing than volume.

[LeonD]

Originally Posted by Chef

Just to be clear,
at noon and noon, you're out of headroom, and all there is left is "flavor," more or less.

But, isn't that assuming the eq is set flat?

I usually cut the mids a tad and bass quite a bit and I can get the gain and master up a bit more without it breaking up.

[Chef]

As I said, "more or less."

[emblymouse]

Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

I've ran just the head with both S15D's, but I'm wondering about running the combo with one S15D. I'm more worried about tone & pairing than volume.

I never did that. The Scout and a Schroeder 15L was a nice blend, the Schro really tightened things up and the Scout provided some warm fuzzy. I would think a Scout/S15 pair would be similar but less dramatically.

[bassgod0dmw]

Hmm. I'll going to attempt to try it out beforehand, otherwise I'll probably just go with what I know. It's crossed my mind to bring both rigs, but that's just dumb and will make the walk back into my house at 2am miserable.