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ialma 02-04-2013 04:42 PM

the most uncolored amp ? a reference amp ?
 
We all know that Yamaha NS-10 are the reference monitors for many studios.
Does a reference amp/head/cabinet exist ?
Question n°2 which is the most uncolored head/cabinet around ?
Regards!

KJung 02-04-2013 04:47 PM

You will get 50 different answers. All heads and cabs have a voice, and almost every amp and cab has been described as flat by someone.

christopherogut 02-04-2013 04:50 PM

(pssst... almost anything Trace Elliot... in my opinion at least)

LiquidMidnight 02-04-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KJung (Post 13829757)
You will get 50 different answers. All heads and cabs have a voice, and almost every amp and cab has been described as flat by someone.

This.

My guess is the most truly uncolored amp is probably actually some studio mic pre.

Got2SadowskyNYC 02-04-2013 05:03 PM

You can tell if an amp colors by running a CD through it.

"Bass amps" are designed for bass. Same for guitar. The closest "instrument amp" to a reference would be a keyboard amp.

With one exception I've found and it's why I use them.

I use Bag End. They make line arrays and other pro audio speakers. The music cabs are designed on the same principal. In my amp I use the same power section that they put in the line arrays so you can plug a CD, mic, guitar, fiddle, flute or what ever in and it will sound correct, with proper miking and EQ.

This is what you'd want from a reference monitor or pro audio speaker. My bass amp does that.

KJung 02-04-2013 05:09 PM

Here we go!

NYCbassist 02-04-2013 05:42 PM

I would have to guess an Ampeg Vintage Tube Amp with the EQ set Flat and a very small amount of Pre-Gain.

Jeff Scott 02-04-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ialma (Post 13829735)
We all know that Yamaha NS-10 are the reference monitors for many studios.
Does a reference amp/head/cabinet exist ?
Question n°2 which is the most uncolored head/cabinet around ?
Regards!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Reference doesn't necessarily imply uncolored. :rollno:

FYI, NS-10s are/were a reference for the typical, crappy bookshelf speakers many folks use/used.

JHAz 02-04-2013 06:25 PM

not to rain on the thread, but I'm not sure we want truly flat from bass output to speaker output. Could try a good mixer, PA amp and PA speakers. Maybe straight in to a QSC K12 or something.

And BTW, I agree, NS10s . . . used to read that if you could make it sound good on those, it would sound good anywhere . . .

ialma 02-04-2013 06:35 PM

Sorry, I've read the Yamahas were a reference speakers for many studios. Now I understand why, but it does not change the sense of the thread.
Ok, looks like there is no answer to my question, I'll delete the thread.

lomo 02-04-2013 06:53 PM

Good channel strip into power amp.

fdeck 02-04-2013 07:04 PM

Check out Euphonic Audio. Their design philosophy for their amps is transparent sound, and they have very high product quality. As for speakers, something like a high quality studio monitor might do the trick. Bass cabs depart from transparency in some important ways. They tend to cut off the lowest frequencies, which is probably a tonal preference but also a size tradeoff. And they also tend to have more peaks and dips in the midrange which is probably a tradeoff against complexity and efficiency.

Most bassists, except those who are really seeking a lot of thump, would probably be unhappy with a speaker that is flat down to the lowest fundamental of the bass.

Duckwater 02-04-2013 07:04 PM

I plug straight into a Carvin mixer that goes into a 800 watt power amp, it's very flat but I still notice a little bit of color.

SpectorDetector 02-04-2013 07:05 PM

Always thought Makbass was pretty transparent and uncolored.


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