mrkbas Schroeder opinions

[bacehead]

Ive decided to get a 21012 schroeder to put under my ampeg svt III pro at the moment but later on may consider getting rid of the ampeg and purchasing a Markbass LM III (played one and really like it).....really just want to see what teh SVT sounds like through a much better cab before I drop cash on another head......so the question is would you get the schroeder or look more closely at the Markbass cabs?

[buzzbass]

Originally Posted by bacehead

Ive decided to get a 21012 schroeder to put under my ampeg svt III pro at the moment but later on may consider getting rid of the ampeg and purchasing a Markbass LM III (played one and really like it).....really just want to see what teh SVT sounds like through a much better cab before I drop cash on another head......so the question is would you get the schroeder or look more closely at the Markbass cabs?

I use an SVT 4pro with a Schroder 310212/1212 stack, and it is thunderous. I can't say enough good things about Jorg and his cabs. I've been through SVT810s, SWRs, & Edens...all with this same SVT 4pro. I'm finally hearing the "sound in my head" with the Schroeders. Yup, I'm a fanboy

[scottbass]

If you like the sound of your Schroeder cab - and I LOVE the sound of mine - there's really no need to consider a different cab when you get a new head. IMHO

[afroman]

I haven't like any of the Markbass cabs I've tried. Their amps are good and I thing their wide open sound would pair well with the super punchy, mid-oriented Schroeders.

[bacehead]

thanks, I really am looking forward to seeing how the SVT sounds through 21012 shroeder....... then if Im not satisfied Ill go to the LM III

[KJung]

Originally Posted by bacehead

Ive decided to get a 21012 schroeder to put under my ampeg svt III pro at the moment but later on may consider getting rid of the ampeg and purchasing a Markbass LM III (played one and really like it).....really just want to see what teh SVT sounds like through a much better cab before I drop cash on another head......so the question is would you get the schroeder or look more closely at the Markbass cabs?

Two comments. First, the Markbass/Schroeder combination is a good one... loud, light, and the MB EQ is voiced perfectly to widen and fatten the very punchy Schroeder voicing.

However, the 21012 (I had one for a while) is a different thing... if anything scooped a bit... lot's of bass, a big hole in the upper mids, and not a lot of low mid punch. I believe Jorg just puts the 12 and 10's in the same space in the cabinet, so that can get a little funky (i.e., they aren't in separate 'within the cab' optimally tuned enclosures).

So, I personally would avoid that cab in particular, and the 'different speaker size' Schroeder cabs in general.

The new BMF line KILLS (I have the 115L+... technically not a BMF, but voiced similarly). These cabs (the 115, 212 and 215) are lightweight, loud, and while attenuated in the low end, they are quite evenly voiced. They sound GREAT with the Markbass, and at 4ohms, the MB heads have plenty of oomph and EQ power to widen that low end a bit. Highly recommended if you dig a burpy, punchy tone, and are very sensitive to size and weight.

IMO and IME! I have a clip of my Markbass F1 and 115L+ on my YouTube channel.

[bacehead]

was looking at the 410 schroeder also, but got advice from several sources to go with the 21012 but the untuned cab makes sense. i dont really go for a scooped sound tho?

[scottbass]

I've got an original (non-neo) 1212. It definitely does NOT have a scooped sound - just everything in good balance plus that great low-mid bump that makes it perfect for being heard in a band environment. I find the accentuated frequencies sit nicely - and prominently - just above the kick drum. However, I find that it does lack a little of the low end you get from a good 1x15. But if you're running through a PA with good subs for the FOH, the 1212 is just perfect for hearing yourself and for being heard by your band mates. Every drummer I have played with LOVES that he can hear the bass without having to put it in his monitor.

[bacehead]

I use a 412 v30 loaded cab with a marshall and it doesnt sound scooped but everyone hears things different........ will be comparing both the 410 and 21012 schroeder