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12-29-2012, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kmay You know, I wasn't even aware Eden sold a 2x15. I may have to look into that...I use an Eden 2x10 now...and am very happy with the sound... | I've been searching for a D215XL for years and finally just scored one. Its the tweeter-less version of their current D215XLT. They're pretty tough to find these days (the D215XL) but I'd imagine the D215XLT would be more readily available.
EDIT: It would appear as though Eden has discontinued the D215XLT as well now. I do know that there are still some dealers out there that have some new "old stock." And, every once in awhile, one pops up here on good old TB.
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12-29-2012, 03:01 PM
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12-29-2012, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kmay ...Everyone is fascinated with their "tiny rigs of doom" and I myself, I own a small rig, but I am still young and while I am, I wasn't a massive rig. I want to be told to turn down! I want the Watts and power! Lol! I have an old school obsession with more power! Lol!... |
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12-29-2012, 05:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Nashville, TN | | | Those are tens?
Wow! Crazy configuration. Lol! Do you ever get to gig with them? | 
12-29-2012, 05:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Nashville, TN | | | It's a fender 610. Lol! J/k...
I am going to get the dual 15 first, and them just see what happens...I figure I could build or have built a couple cabs...I just really don't understand the mid range and tweeter options....I have always played tens, until recently, I tried an old Peavey cab. It had an 18 and 210's in the same cab. I like the bottom end it has. So, I really think I am going to love the 15 cabs. I am still experimenting...so I'll probably end of trying tons! Lol! I am a massive gear whore and get g.a.s. ALOT! Lol! | 
12-29-2012, 05:36 PM
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12-29-2012, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kmay It's a fender 610. Lol! J/k...
I am going to get the dual 15 first, and them just see what happens...I figure I could build or have built a couple cabs...I just really don't understand the mid range and tweeter options....I have always played tens, until recently, I tried an old Peavey cab. It had an 18 and 210's in the same cab. I like the bottom end it has. So, I really think I am going to love the 15 cabs. I am still experimenting...so I'll probably end of trying tons! Lol! I am a massive gear whore and get g.a.s. ALOT! Lol! | Wouldn't need mids/tweeters. Both the 3015s & 15PR400s are full-range drivers. If you wanted tweets, the Selenium D220Ti high frequency driver & Selenium HM25-25 horn are superior choices for modest bucks. http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=264-270 http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=264-312
If you wanted mids, the 18Sound 6ND410 would be the best choice. But they're $145 a pop. And then you'd want the Eminence Kappa Lite 3015 LFs. http://www.usspeaker.com/eighteensound-6ND410-1.htm http://www.usspeaker.com/Kappa%20Lite-3015lf-1.htm
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12-30-2012, 08:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Nashville, TN | | | Finally got around to looking up those speakers. So, I happen to be pretty decent at carpentry and enjoy doing it. What your saying is if I spend the $300 on one of these speakers (and get two for a 2x15) which will be a total price tag of $600. I could stick them in a box (That I'll do some reach on and design) and after I spend the money on materials and the time it will come out cheaper than a grand (which is what the fender costs)?
I don't know...any thoughts? | 
12-30-2012, 09:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Boulder Suburbia, Colorado | | That looks rad. If I saw that on stage I'd say, "Hell yeah! Hope he can play..."
For real though, it looks rad & will probably sound pretty huge. | 
12-31-2012, 05:40 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 60453 | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Kmay Finally got around to looking up those speakers. So, I happen to be pretty decent at carpentry and enjoy doing it. What your saying is if I spend the $300 on one of these speakers (and get two for a 2x15) which will be a total price tag of $600. I could stick them in a box (That I'll do some reach on and design) and after I spend the money on materials and the time it will come out cheaper than a grand (which is what the fender costs)?
I don't know...any thoughts? | Correct. Absolutely. The only caveat is time. Don't know what you value yours at. If you want immediate satisfaction, go with the Fender you mention.
Additionally, a 215 w/3015s or 15PR400s will be light years better sonically, significantly smaller, & tremendously lighter.
And two 3015s are $540. Two 15PR400s are $460. Plus shipping of course.
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12-31-2012, 05:42 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Nashville, TN | | | Well....what if I test the water. Just build a single 15 cab. Which one of those speakers will be better? Or I guess a better question is what's the difference in the two sonically? | 
12-31-2012, 05:54 AM
|  | passionate hack | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NE US/CAN line | | | If you build yourself a fEarful 215 you will have a louder, deeper, clearer and lighter rig.
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12-31-2012, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Kmay Well....what if I test the water. Just build a single 15 cab. Which one of those speakers will be better? Or I guess a better question is what's the difference in the two sonically? | Prudent. And if you like it (& frankly, I don't know how you won't) you can do another one. Then you'd have a modular set up that many favor.
As for better? Im(very)ho, you can not go wrong with either. They're both at the pinnacle of full-range 15s. You say toMAYto, I say toMAHto.
There are threads for both the 3015 & 15PR400. Give them a glance. I think the general opinion is that the Eminence has more pronounced mids while the Faital is smoother over the entire frequency range. Others may hold different opinions.
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12-31-2012, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Dude, I saw Kenny G a couple years ago, and Vail Johnson was using a 2001RB and a 412. He said that was his small rig, and he had just downsized from four 412's. So smooth jazz guys like the big stuff, too  | I read through this whole thread and all I came away with is jimmy went to see kennyG.
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12-31-2012, 06:35 AM
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If you could build cabs your self, and wanted to use full range drivers, look up TL-606 plans. Do some work and convert them to 1/2" ply and coy Greenboy's bracing. Would be a killer cab with a 3015 or 15PR400.
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12-31-2012, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jmac I read through this whole thread and all I came away with is jimmy went to see kennyG. | BAAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I wanted to say something about that, I was all like "Who the f~€k would wanna go see Kenny G???" But I refrained cause that would be rude and disrespectful. 
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